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Yeah I'm not pretending that they make up any sort of majority or massive minority, but they are small and can be loud. If there really were that many of them,

Yeah I'm not pretending that they make up any sort of majority or massive minority, but they are small and can be loud. If there really were that many of them, the Fauci propaganda film on Disney+ wouldn't have been so highly ratio'd, I think. Plus I live in California and, yeah, we can be pretty weird like that. Putting aside the particularly enthusiastic individuals, there are many people who really want to believe that this problem is going to go away because the government and Big Pharma will make it happen. I think everyone wants to believe that. I want to believe that science and technology can put a stop to this and maybe we can enter a new renaissance. The difference is that some have gone as far as to view any sort of questions as a form of heresy. Or they've reached a point where they can't handle any amount of disagreement. I'm a little biased, perhaps. I have a few sets of friends and family that became so heavily invested in the pandemic that they entirely closed themselves off for the last year and a half. My best friend whom I've known almost my whole life and I consider to be a brother not only has decided he can't have an earnest discussion about strategy against the virus but I've only seen him twice in the last year and I've not been able to see his wife or his son who was born last year. I effectively have a non-blood nephew whose first years I'm missing out on, and at this point I just don't find it to be reasonable. One of my cousins and his family remained totally locked up this whole time, going as far as to decontaminate all of his mail and leave it to air out in the garage for a week. I can't meet his children either, and until recently his children couldn't see other children. He and his wife would throw a conniption fit if they know that I was more skeptical than they. None of these people even care that I've been vaccinated. There's more personal stories I have, but those are the ones that emotionally affect me the most. I've talked to many others on Discord that have similar stories about their own social circles. So yeah, when some people witness such extreme reactions and realize that the establishment has shown an almost total lack of interest in self-improvement, they are liable to think "Big Phrama doesn't want me to take Vitamin D, so that must mean it works against COVID! And if it doesn't, well, screw Big Pharma anyway." In another circumstance, although I am kind of a supplement fiend myself, I'd have made fun of the Vitamin D, HCQ, and Ivermectin people in any other circumstance. Now I just see it as just a reflection of our collective ignorant choices rather than as an aberration. And to be honest, I just can't bring myself to shame the people who overestimate Vitamin D because at least they don't act like I carry the black plague.

wallacewherehe 5y ago
So, you sound like kind of a jerk. Yes, perhaps they’re overly concerned, but if a friend of mine is worried about contracting a deadly illness; I’m going to scrub my hands like a surgeon and follow whatever I need to do to make them feel safe. Your feelings don’t matter, it’s the person who is concerned who sets the limitations, otherwise you’re just a toxic asshole making them anxious. I personally also avoid people who talk like you, because while I managed to avoid covid without any worries, they keep saying things about how we’re all going to get it so maybe we should just get it so we can be done. And they infected people they claim to care about with willful negligence. If you don’t want people to cut you out, it’s best to hear what they say.
A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago
Illinois here and we are all weird:). Regarding the enthusiastic individuals and believers in technology in general, I want to run something by you that I heard somewhere, and I think it is applicable here. I think it was a salesguy pitch, but the argument went ( based on the lyrics of: "The sun'll come out tomorrow So you got to hang on till' tomorrow, come what may! Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya, tomorrow You're only a day away!") that Americans are super optimistic. I remember buying into that description since I was internally comparing it to the old country and basic response to everything being doom and gloom. There is some value to hope, but I agree that blind faith can be counterproductive here. I hear you on the family front. It has been a very weird experience overall. My extended family and social circles tend on the conservative side with some outliers. As far as I know, all are vaccinated too. As expected, the reactions were all over the place. We have one family unit that locked itself in with their kid and has not seen anyone for months initially and is only now relaxing their protocols somewhat. I do think it is a little over the top, but it really is their choice.. for better or for worse. We have one that is regularly roaming the countryside. All this is happening, while my wife is still going full time to work at a doctor's office. We have a baby too, but we are going for the middle ground. It probably helps that we are home bodies. In all probability, we will eventually get covid just based on her exposure alone. Overall, I agree with you -- we all missed out on some memories. But all this talk about vitamin D reminded me I have to schedule an annual check up. Heavens know I did not move much in 2021. Anyway, stay healthy.

wallacewherehe 5y ago

So, you sound like kind of a jerk. Yes, perhaps they’re overly concerned, but if a friend of mine is worried about contracting a deadly illness; I’m going to scrub my hands like a surgeon and follow whatever I need to do to make them feel safe. Your feelings don’t matter, it’s the person who is concerned who sets the limitations, otherwise you’re just a toxic asshole making them anxious. I personally also avoid people who talk like you, because while I managed to avoid covid without any worries, they keep saying things about how we’re all going to get it so maybe we should just get it so we can be done. And they infected people they claim to care about with willful negligence. If you don’t want people to cut you out, it’s best to hear what they say.

A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago

Illinois here and we are all weird:). Regarding the enthusiastic individuals and believers in technology in general, I want to run something by you that I heard somewhere, and I think it is applicable here. I think it was a salesguy pitch, but the argument went ( based on the lyrics of: "The sun'll come out tomorrow So you got to hang on till' tomorrow, come what may! Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya, tomorrow You're only a day away!") that Americans are super optimistic. I remember buying into that description since I was internally comparing it to the old country and basic response to everything being doom and gloom. There is some value to hope, but I agree that blind faith can be counterproductive here. I hear you on the family front. It has been a very weird experience overall. My extended family and social circles tend on the conservative side with some outliers. As far as I know, all are vaccinated too. As expected, the reactions were all over the place. We have one family unit that locked itself in with their kid and has not seen anyone for months initially and is only now relaxing their protocols somewhat. I do think it is a little over the top, but it really is their choice.. for better or for worse. We have one that is regularly roaming the countryside. All this is happening, while my wife is still going full time to work at a doctor's office. We have a baby too, but we are going for the middle ground. It probably helps that we are home bodies. In all probability, we will eventually get covid just based on her exposure alone. Overall, I agree with you -- we all missed out on some memories. But all this talk about vitamin D reminded me I have to schedule an annual check up. Heavens know I did not move much in 2021. Anyway, stay healthy.