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He's also been credulously spreading nonsense about ivermectin and vaccine adverse events. Not someone worth listening to. FWIW, he's also not a medical doctor

He's also been credulously spreading nonsense about ivermectin and vaccine adverse events. Not someone worth listening to. FWIW, he's also not a medical doctor. Not that he explicitly claims to be, but presenting medical information with a "Dr." in front of your name and no M.D. or Ph.D in a medically relevant field is kinda sketchy.

starkd 5y ago
Oh come on. He's spent decades in the field as a nurse. He explains the latest literature on the subject in terms people can understand, and he obviously has the experience to do it. To dismiss him just because he's not a medical doctor is to ignore all the other medical fields. From what I've experienced, often times its the nurses who better equipped to understand the latest studies better than the doctors do, because they are more hands on. To dismiss so off-handedly indicates you are more politically motivated in your criticism than you care to admit. You are merely boosting for a "side". By the way, he is merely pointing to the latest studies from the leading publications on ivermectin. He's pointed to both the good and bad. He even admitted that it's results were somewhat disappointing, but still showed a somewhat beneficial effect. And he points to the studies themselves. Medicine seriously hurts its credibility when it doesn't report the shades of gray. When you don't do that, people don't trust it. Dr. John Campbell has proven to be a valuable resource in this pandemic, because he is playing it straight.
- phonypc 5y ago
  Nah. He signal boosts all the worst conspiracies of the pandemic; "Pfizermectin", abuse of VAERS data, the Pfizer "whistle blower", you name it. While trying to maintain the appearance of showing both sides neutrally and objectively. But look at his most watched videos and the comments on his videos. He's clearly playing into the anti-vax crowd, whether intentionally or not. I completely reject the notion that nurses are better equipped than doctors to interpret studies in this context; biology, pharmacology etc. In some practical applications of medicine, maybe.
  - robbiep 5y ago
    There’s a reason why my nursing colleagues have a (relatively) high degree of vaccine hesitancy and are losing their jobs - a proportion of them are just not capable of understanding the science and think that their experience (and Facebook feeds) are worth more than actual data. All of my anti vax leaning social media content comes from those colleagues (although let’s be clear it’s a small percentage and like all broad sweeping statements it applies in general only)
    - starkd 5y ago
      Not capable of understanding science? that's incredibly arrogant statement to make. Nurses study the science as part of their accreditation. I could just as easily say doctors are so busy treating patients and reading up on the latest CDC guidelines and bureaucracy they don't have time to read the latest science and explore any skepticism. But it's essential to science.
      - robbiep 5y ago
        And if i didn’t know so many of them I would agree with you. However after numerous experiences beginning with the midwife who explained to me that demonstrating the plantar reflex too many times would result in the child having a stutter. Just one example of 10,000, however it is by no means definitive of the profession - what you don’t see however is 10%+ of doctors refusing the vaccine or sprouting nonsense. I don’t know what exactly point you’re trying to refute - nurses are practical but a proportion of them have no scientific capacity. A proportion that is a logarithmic difference from their doctor or allied health colleagues. And I basically went to slightly less lengths to caveat this in my previous post, but apparently you’re a pedant
        starkd 5y ago
        wow. It's almost like you meant to reply to some other post. That's not at all what this thread is talking about. Dr. Campbell was not a midwife. He was a teaching nurse. He's accustomed to reading these studies. Not sure how you equate him with anti-vax. He's adamantly pro-vax.
- UncleMeat 5y ago
  He was the one who decided to stick “dr” in front of his name. That was optional.
  - merpnderp 5y ago
    Isn't he a doctor of nursing who teaches nurses?
    - UncleMeat 5y ago
      I'm a doctor too, if not having a medical degree counts when providing medical advice.
      - merpnderp 5y ago
        When your nurse practitioner gives you medical advice do you claim you're just as much a doctor as them and their degree doesn't qualify them to give medical advice? It is absurd to claim someone with a doctor in nursing doesn't have a medical degree. "...a Ph.D. in Nursing program is a research and science-focused degree that prepares nurses for careers conducting important medical research that will advance the entire nursing profession and for teaching nursing at the college level." https://www.registerednursing.org/phd/ https://www.registerednursing.org/phd/
tejohnso 5y ago
What ivermectin nonsense are you referring to? In every video I've watched he is summarizing from respected peer reviewed journals, and all sources are mentioned and / or linked.

starkd 5y ago

Oh come on. He's spent decades in the field as a nurse. He explains the latest literature on the subject in terms people can understand, and he obviously has the experience to do it. To dismiss him just because he's not a medical doctor is to ignore all the other medical fields. From what I've experienced, often times its the nurses who better equipped to understand the latest studies better than the doctors do, because they are more hands on. To dismiss so off-handedly indicates you are more politically motivated in your criticism than you care to admit. You are merely boosting for a "side". By the way, he is merely pointing to the latest studies from the leading publications on ivermectin. He's pointed to both the good and bad. He even admitted that it's results were somewhat disappointing, but still showed a somewhat beneficial effect. And he points to the studies themselves. Medicine seriously hurts its credibility when it doesn't report the shades of gray. When you don't do that, people don't trust it. Dr. John Campbell has proven to be a valuable resource in this pandemic, because he is playing it straight.

phonypc 5y ago
Nah. He signal boosts all the worst conspiracies of the pandemic; "Pfizermectin", abuse of VAERS data, the Pfizer "whistle blower", you name it. While trying to maintain the appearance of showing both sides neutrally and objectively. But look at his most watched videos and the comments on his videos. He's clearly playing into the anti-vax crowd, whether intentionally or not. I completely reject the notion that nurses are better equipped than doctors to interpret studies in this context; biology, pharmacology etc. In some practical applications of medicine, maybe.
- robbiep 5y ago
  There’s a reason why my nursing colleagues have a (relatively) high degree of vaccine hesitancy and are losing their jobs - a proportion of them are just not capable of understanding the science and think that their experience (and Facebook feeds) are worth more than actual data. All of my anti vax leaning social media content comes from those colleagues (although let’s be clear it’s a small percentage and like all broad sweeping statements it applies in general only)
  - starkd 5y ago
    Not capable of understanding science? that's incredibly arrogant statement to make. Nurses study the science as part of their accreditation. I could just as easily say doctors are so busy treating patients and reading up on the latest CDC guidelines and bureaucracy they don't have time to read the latest science and explore any skepticism. But it's essential to science.
    - robbiep 5y ago
      And if i didn’t know so many of them I would agree with you. However after numerous experiences beginning with the midwife who explained to me that demonstrating the plantar reflex too many times would result in the child having a stutter. Just one example of 10,000, however it is by no means definitive of the profession - what you don’t see however is 10%+ of doctors refusing the vaccine or sprouting nonsense. I don’t know what exactly point you’re trying to refute - nurses are practical but a proportion of them have no scientific capacity. A proportion that is a logarithmic difference from their doctor or allied health colleagues. And I basically went to slightly less lengths to caveat this in my previous post, but apparently you’re a pedant
      - starkd 5y ago
        wow. It's almost like you meant to reply to some other post. That's not at all what this thread is talking about. Dr. Campbell was not a midwife. He was a teaching nurse. He's accustomed to reading these studies. Not sure how you equate him with anti-vax. He's adamantly pro-vax.
UncleMeat 5y ago
He was the one who decided to stick “dr” in front of his name. That was optional.
- merpnderp 5y ago
  Isn't he a doctor of nursing who teaches nurses?
  - UncleMeat 5y ago
    I'm a doctor too, if not having a medical degree counts when providing medical advice.
    - merpnderp 5y ago
      When your nurse practitioner gives you medical advice do you claim you're just as much a doctor as them and their degree doesn't qualify them to give medical advice? It is absurd to claim someone with a doctor in nursing doesn't have a medical degree. "...a Ph.D. in Nursing program is a research and science-focused degree that prepares nurses for careers conducting important medical research that will advance the entire nursing profession and for teaching nursing at the college level." https://www.registerednursing.org/phd/ https://www.registerednursing.org/phd/

tejohnso 5y ago

What ivermectin nonsense are you referring to? In every video I've watched he is summarizing from respected peer reviewed journals, and all sources are mentioned and / or linked.