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As I maintainter myself, I completely disagree. It's a fair complaint that everyone contributing to open source will eventually suffer from. > Please don't eve

by brabel 5y ago

As I maintainter myself, I completely disagree. It's a fair complaint that everyone contributing to open source will eventually suffer from. > Please don't ever post things like this. What the hell, is this against any HN policy? Or you think no one should post their point of view here if it's against yours? EDIT: I think it's important to note that burnout is a result of you having an issue within yourself (at least in the context of voluntary projects), it's not something others do to you... you can choose to ignore all pull requests, for example, or say in your README that you won't accept any (I've done that myself to projects I wanted to keep in a certain "permanent" state for reasons). If you choose to engage in discussions, that's your call.

atoav 5y ago
> I think it's important to note that burnout is a result of you having an issue within yourself I think this is an oversimplification. You can be perfectly happy with yourself, but if your environment creates a neverending treadmill of situations that drains your soul, you will get burnout if you cannot find any mechanism to cope with it, to avoid it or to deal with it. And in open source we are each others environment. If you have 100 well researched issues written in a friendly tone you will certainly feel a different motivation to tackle that backlog than if it are 100 toxic spitting well-researched issues. The same goes for how we talk about each other in public. If you think a PR should have been merged, just talk to the maintainers in a non-public setting (Chat or whatever) and explain why you want it merged, what you would be willing to do for it and how they could see this happen. If they still don't like to do it, just fork it and do it yourself.
- brabel 5y ago
  > you will get burnout if you cannot find any mechanism to cope with it, to avoid it or to deal with it. I agree with you it's more complicated than that, but you seem to be supporting my point by saying this :) ... you will get burnout if --> *you* cannot find a way to cope... --> *you* cannot deal with it. It's like offense... it must be taken to work... I know, I know... sometimes you cannot avoid taking it and bringing it with you because you care about others thinking you should be offended, or that they feel offended on your behalf even (with seems to be a common feeling today), but I find it great that the English language uses the term "take offense", as it is so accurate: if you don't take it, it simply evaporates, no one can offend you and force you to take offense if you choose to not do it. Same with burnout.

by brabel 5y ago

atoav 5y ago

> I think it's important to note that burnout is a result of you having an issue within yourself I think this is an oversimplification. You can be perfectly happy with yourself, but if your environment creates a neverending treadmill of situations that drains your soul, you will get burnout if you cannot find any mechanism to cope with it, to avoid it or to deal with it. And in open source we are each others environment. If you have 100 well researched issues written in a friendly tone you will certainly feel a different motivation to tackle that backlog than if it are 100 toxic spitting well-researched issues. The same goes for how we talk about each other in public. If you think a PR should have been merged, just talk to the maintainers in a non-public setting (Chat or whatever) and explain why you want it merged, what you would be willing to do for it and how they could see this happen. If they still don't like to do it, just fork it and do it yourself.

brabel 5y ago
> you will get burnout if you cannot find any mechanism to cope with it, to avoid it or to deal with it. I agree with you it's more complicated than that, but you seem to be supporting my point by saying this :) ... you will get burnout if --> *you* cannot find a way to cope... --> *you* cannot deal with it. It's like offense... it must be taken to work... I know, I know... sometimes you cannot avoid taking it and bringing it with you because you care about others thinking you should be offended, or that they feel offended on your behalf even (with seems to be a common feeling today), but I find it great that the English language uses the term "take offense", as it is so accurate: if you don't take it, it simply evaporates, no one can offend you and force you to take offense if you choose to not do it. Same with burnout.