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I just don't see that happening, especially given the extremely slow rate at which climate is changing. Personally, I haven't really perceived the change in my

I just don't see that happening, especially given the extremely slow rate at which climate is changing. Personally, I haven't really perceived the change in my lifetime (30+ years). Of course, I'm not saying it's not happening, just my perception of it. Care to share some articles that support this scenario?

polotics 5y ago
Where are you based if I may ask? Been watching which news?
- olalonde 5y ago
  20 years in Canada (Montreal), 10 years in Southern China (Shenzhen). Not watching news much (other than HN). I'm a skeptical by nature.
piva00 5y ago
> I just don't see that happening, especially given the extremely slow rate at which climate is changing. Personally, I haven't really perceived the change in my lifetime (30+ years). Where do you live? I'm originally from Brazil, I live now in Sweden. In Brazil during my lifetime I lived through a massive deforestation of the Amazon. I saw landscapes change from lush jungles into arid and depleted soils. I went to places in the Pantanal area as a kid that were completely transformed 20 years later, rivers drying up and a different kind of flora was taking over parts of what used to be wetlands. In Sweden I have less than a decade around so my own experience is pretty limited. Here I can only get a glimpse of the changes through the eyes of my local friends, my girlfriend parents and other older people I talk to have noticed how much shorter and warmer winters have got. How hot summers are happening more frequently. The winter season used to last almost a month longer and snow wasn't a possibility but a given. Now they live through winters where less than 5 days of snowy days are a reality. Planning your skiing season varies a lot between years where when I talk to older people they just used to consider it a given that there would be a skiing season in most parts of the country (maybe except for the south in Skåne). The warming is much more prominent closer to the poles. The climate is not changing slowly in my experience, given the size of the system it's changing pretty fucking fast.
hef19898 5y ago
Well, I remember two-lane streets being single lane during winter because one lane was used to pile up snow. The ski resorts I learned skiing as a kid removed their lifts 20 years ago for a lack of snow, some even more than 20 years ago. The town with the single lane streets in winter? Last year my parents removed snow from their drive way 4 times during winter, and it was a snowy one there. Another example, 8 years ago when we built our house, we did the roof between Christmas and New Year's Eve. We worked in t-shirts because otherwise it wasn't bearable at close to 20 ° C in plain sun. In dead winter, normal temperatures would have been more like -10° C. And somewhere around 20 cm of snow. I remember 6 hundred-year floods from top of my head in the last 20 years. Climate change is here, it is happening. And at least where I live you see it everyday.
- techdragon 5y ago
  The trend for “one in a decade/century” weather events to happen more often than would be indicated by simple statistics is pretty worrying and it isn’t helped that statistics being what they are, people looking to deny evidence can push back with arguments about the distribution of a random sample not being related to its overall average over time.

polotics 5y ago

Where are you based if I may ask? Been watching which news?

olalonde 5y ago
20 years in Canada (Montreal), 10 years in Southern China (Shenzhen). Not watching news much (other than HN). I'm a skeptical by nature.

piva00 5y ago

> I just don't see that happening, especially given the extremely slow rate at which climate is changing. Personally, I haven't really perceived the change in my lifetime (30+ years). Where do you live? I'm originally from Brazil, I live now in Sweden. In Brazil during my lifetime I lived through a massive deforestation of the Amazon. I saw landscapes change from lush jungles into arid and depleted soils. I went to places in the Pantanal area as a kid that were completely transformed 20 years later, rivers drying up and a different kind of flora was taking over parts of what used to be wetlands. In Sweden I have less than a decade around so my own experience is pretty limited. Here I can only get a glimpse of the changes through the eyes of my local friends, my girlfriend parents and other older people I talk to have noticed how much shorter and warmer winters have got. How hot summers are happening more frequently. The winter season used to last almost a month longer and snow wasn't a possibility but a given. Now they live through winters where less than 5 days of snowy days are a reality. Planning your skiing season varies a lot between years where when I talk to older people they just used to consider it a given that there would be a skiing season in most parts of the country (maybe except for the south in Skåne). The warming is much more prominent closer to the poles. The climate is not changing slowly in my experience, given the size of the system it's changing pretty fucking fast.

hef19898 5y ago

Well, I remember two-lane streets being single lane during winter because one lane was used to pile up snow. The ski resorts I learned skiing as a kid removed their lifts 20 years ago for a lack of snow, some even more than 20 years ago. The town with the single lane streets in winter? Last year my parents removed snow from their drive way 4 times during winter, and it was a snowy one there. Another example, 8 years ago when we built our house, we did the roof between Christmas and New Year's Eve. We worked in t-shirts because otherwise it wasn't bearable at close to 20 ° C in plain sun. In dead winter, normal temperatures would have been more like -10° C. And somewhere around 20 cm of snow. I remember 6 hundred-year floods from top of my head in the last 20 years. Climate change is here, it is happening. And at least where I live you see it everyday.

techdragon 5y ago
The trend for “one in a decade/century” weather events to happen more often than would be indicated by simple statistics is pretty worrying and it isn’t helped that statistics being what they are, people looking to deny evidence can push back with arguments about the distribution of a random sample not being related to its overall average over time.