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Another tax on the middle class, because they don't have enough of a fiscal burden already, in the goods they need, in paying gas when they drive to work (no, n

Another tax on the middle class, because they don't have enough of a fiscal burden already, in the goods they need, in paying gas when they drive to work (no, not everyone has a very green public transportation that gets them to work in an efficient fashion). Do these people even know the carbon footprint of manufacturing a solar panel or a wind mill for their "green" energy? I do agree that products should be manufactured locally, but that has nothing to do with the environment.

occz 5y ago
>Another tax on the middle class, because they don't have enough of a fiscal burden already, in the goods they need, in paying gas when they drive to work (no, not everyone has a very green public transportation that gets them to work in an efficient fashion). So build it, then. You have lots of money available to construct it from your carbon tax, and even more money when you stop subsidizing the ridiculously expensive car-oriented infrastructure. >Do these people even know the carbon footprint of manufacturing a solar panel or a wind mill for their "green' energy? Total emissions from these technologies are significantly lower than fossil-powered energy generation. Stop spreading disinformation, it's extremely frustrating. It's very obvious that you're doing it on purpose.
- throwaway599281 5y ago
  >So build it, then. You have lots of money available to construct it from your carbon tax, and even more money when you stop subsidizing the ridiculously expensive car-oriented infrastructure. You don't know what you're talking about. And just because you're ignorant doesn't make me argue in bad faith.
  - occz 5y ago
    I do know what I'm talking about - and we can conclude on the basis of your statements on renewable energy production that you either don't know what your talking about (willfully ignorant) or that you're attempting to willfully sabotage the conversation.
gefhfff 5y ago
> Do these people even know the carbon footprint of manufacturing a solar panel or a wind mill for their "green" energy? Yes, and it can't be ignored. A carbon tax is universal I don't get your whining on the middle class. Everyone can strive for a climate friendly life style. This generates a demand on a big scale, thus also solutions. A dividend would help people having not much money and still need to use carbon intensive products (until there are alternatives), because they have a small footprint anyways

occz 5y ago

>Another tax on the middle class, because they don't have enough of a fiscal burden already, in the goods they need, in paying gas when they drive to work (no, not everyone has a very green public transportation that gets them to work in an efficient fashion). So build it, then. You have lots of money available to construct it from your carbon tax, and even more money when you stop subsidizing the ridiculously expensive car-oriented infrastructure. >Do these people even know the carbon footprint of manufacturing a solar panel or a wind mill for their "green' energy? Total emissions from these technologies are significantly lower than fossil-powered energy generation. Stop spreading disinformation, it's extremely frustrating. It's very obvious that you're doing it on purpose.

throwaway599281 5y ago
>So build it, then. You have lots of money available to construct it from your carbon tax, and even more money when you stop subsidizing the ridiculously expensive car-oriented infrastructure. You don't know what you're talking about. And just because you're ignorant doesn't make me argue in bad faith.
- occz 5y ago
  I do know what I'm talking about - and we can conclude on the basis of your statements on renewable energy production that you either don't know what your talking about (willfully ignorant) or that you're attempting to willfully sabotage the conversation.

gefhfff 5y ago

> Do these people even know the carbon footprint of manufacturing a solar panel or a wind mill for their "green" energy? Yes, and it can't be ignored. A carbon tax is universal I don't get your whining on the middle class. Everyone can strive for a climate friendly life style. This generates a demand on a big scale, thus also solutions. A dividend would help people having not much money and still need to use carbon intensive products (until there are alternatives), because they have a small footprint anyways