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Both arguments are valid though imo. If you take a photo in town square and I'm in the background no worries, that's fine. If you follow me around taking photo

by ccakes 5y ago

Both arguments are valid though imo. If you take a photo in town square and I'm in the background no worries, that's fine. If you follow me around taking photos of me in town square then that's harassment - not fine. If your Nest doorbell watches me walk past your house that's also fine. However if your entire street has Nest then has Amazon identified me as having walked down your entire street? If so, that should also be harassment. The issue isn't that the photo or video was taken, it's the correlation that happens after the fact.

lillecarl 5y ago
I mostly agree, but disagree with the "taking a photo of me on the pavement" part. It's actually illegal in Sweden. We have some of the strictest camera regulations I know of, and I'm very pleased with that. I'm NOT a fan of Teslas sentry mode.
- CRConrad 5y ago
  > disagree with the "taking a photo of me on the pavement" part. It's actually illegal in Sweden. It is? Since how long; when was that law changed?
  - lillecarl 5y ago
    Fixed installations has been regulated since forever.
    - CRConrad 5y ago
      But "taking a photo of me on the pavement" doesn't sound like "fixed installations"; it sounds like me as a tourist not being allowed to take a snapshot of a picturesque street just because you happen to be standing on the pavement.
      - lillecarl 5y ago
        I think I wasn't clear enough that I was referring to the nest camera the parent was talking about.
        CRConrad 5y ago
        Ah, yeah, good. Because I've taken quite a few snapshots when I've been out and about, always under the impression that what I was doing was perfectly legal. :-)
quinnjh 5y ago
My understanding was that correlation after the fact with ai is what also allows you to obfuscate identifiers so its technically anonymized until "extracted and inspected". Completely unrelated- you might dig this satellite tracker visualization :) https://platform.leolabs.space/visualization https://platform.leolabs.space/visualization

by ccakes 5y ago

lillecarl 5y ago

I mostly agree, but disagree with the "taking a photo of me on the pavement" part. It's actually illegal in Sweden. We have some of the strictest camera regulations I know of, and I'm very pleased with that. I'm NOT a fan of Teslas sentry mode.

CRConrad 5y ago
> disagree with the "taking a photo of me on the pavement" part. It's actually illegal in Sweden. It is? Since how long; when was that law changed?
- lillecarl 5y ago
  Fixed installations has been regulated since forever.
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    But "taking a photo of me on the pavement" doesn't sound like "fixed installations"; it sounds like me as a tourist not being allowed to take a snapshot of a picturesque street just because you happen to be standing on the pavement.
    - lillecarl 5y ago
      I think I wasn't clear enough that I was referring to the nest camera the parent was talking about.
      - CRConrad 5y ago
        Ah, yeah, good. Because I've taken quite a few snapshots when I've been out and about, always under the impression that what I was doing was perfectly legal. :-)

quinnjh 5y ago

My understanding was that correlation after the fact with ai is what also allows you to obfuscate identifiers so its technically anonymized until "extracted and inspected". Completely unrelated- you might dig this satellite tracker visualization :) https://platform.leolabs.space/visualization https://platform.leolabs.space/visualization