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It is remarkable but it shouldn’t be surprising. As the article says, the WTA is a women’s sports association and arguably the most successful one in the world.

It is remarkable but it shouldn’t be surprising. As the article says, the WTA is a women’s sports association and arguably the most successful one in the world. If the WTA caved to pressure from China then they would rightly be vilified in the west for betraying women. There is no way they could ever do that and get away with it!

adriand 5y ago
Perhaps women are also better at speaking truth to power.
- igorkraw 5y ago
  I can't help but wonder this myself, although I don't think it is safe/easy to say this with confidence - but if you look at Jane Jacobs, Hannah Arendt, Simone Weil, Rosa Luxemburg, Chelsea Manning and others, I sometimes think about whether being in the historically weaker societal role sharpens your insight and moral cohones. I don't believe there's enough evidence to say it's there, but I would buy a story that went something like the subtle machismo men suck up as they get socialised might hinder us in those regards. But then I look to certain contemporary female lesbian politicians in my country and I reconsider that...and there have been people like David Graeber, James Scott, Mikhael Bakunin, Peter Kropotkin, Edward Snowden and many others as well.
  - paisawalla 5y ago
    Manning was a man when he became a whistleblower.
    - zozbot234 5y ago
      Sure, but even as a gender questioning male he was definitely being placed in a "historically weaker social role".
      - paisawalla 5y ago
        He was an out gay man in the military, not a gender questioning male.
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  - el_ravager 5y ago
    Only the wealthy and powerful, The Right, can afford the luxury of being truly stupid. The Left can never afford not to be as smart and pragmatic. This is why reality is always left-leaning.
hintymad 5y ago
It's also great that WTA does not depend on Chinese market, so they won't sustain too much of loss by antagonizing Chinese authority. On the other hand, look at NBA. The righteous American conscience, the one and the only King James, kisses up to China to no end.
- chongli 5y ago
  I would be really interested to see how things would go if it was a WNBA player making the sexual assault complaint against a party grandee. The NBA owns the WNBA and we might reasonably expect them to cave to the pressure as they have before. However I think they’d face a rebellion from their players as well as the public. It could get really ugly.
- Pyramus 5y ago
  > It's also great that WTA does not depend on Chinese market Due to Covid several tournaments in China were cancelled, which seems to have helped.
xwolfi 5y ago
And honestly, I d be the party, I d embrace it and move with it. If the Church can take it, so can the party, fix it and get on with it. The fact one dude has a mistress he raped then followed on, doesnt need to reflect on the political model, the party legitimity, or China's success. Just look at Trump and the republicans in the US, they rolled with it, Toad dick or not.

adriand 5y ago

Perhaps women are also better at speaking truth to power.

igorkraw 5y ago
I can't help but wonder this myself, although I don't think it is safe/easy to say this with confidence - but if you look at Jane Jacobs, Hannah Arendt, Simone Weil, Rosa Luxemburg, Chelsea Manning and others, I sometimes think about whether being in the historically weaker societal role sharpens your insight and moral cohones. I don't believe there's enough evidence to say it's there, but I would buy a story that went something like the subtle machismo men suck up as they get socialised might hinder us in those regards. But then I look to certain contemporary female lesbian politicians in my country and I reconsider that...and there have been people like David Graeber, James Scott, Mikhael Bakunin, Peter Kropotkin, Edward Snowden and many others as well.
- paisawalla 5y ago
  Manning was a man when he became a whistleblower.
  - zozbot234 5y ago
    Sure, but even as a gender questioning male he was definitely being placed in a "historically weaker social role".
    - paisawalla 5y ago
      He was an out gay man in the military, not a gender questioning male.
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- el_ravager 5y ago
  Only the wealthy and powerful, The Right, can afford the luxury of being truly stupid. The Left can never afford not to be as smart and pragmatic. This is why reality is always left-leaning.

hintymad 5y ago

It's also great that WTA does not depend on Chinese market, so they won't sustain too much of loss by antagonizing Chinese authority. On the other hand, look at NBA. The righteous American conscience, the one and the only King James, kisses up to China to no end.

chongli 5y ago
I would be really interested to see how things would go if it was a WNBA player making the sexual assault complaint against a party grandee. The NBA owns the WNBA and we might reasonably expect them to cave to the pressure as they have before. However I think they’d face a rebellion from their players as well as the public. It could get really ugly.
Pyramus 5y ago
> It's also great that WTA does not depend on Chinese market Due to Covid several tournaments in China were cancelled, which seems to have helped.

xwolfi 5y ago

And honestly, I d be the party, I d embrace it and move with it. If the Church can take it, so can the party, fix it and get on with it. The fact one dude has a mistress he raped then followed on, doesnt need to reflect on the political model, the party legitimity, or China's success. Just look at Trump and the republicans in the US, they rolled with it, Toad dick or not.