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Ok, do you have any recommendations for uh, China analysis YouTubers?
by guscost 5y ago
Ok, do you have any recommendations for uh, China analysis YouTubers?
- FooBarWidget 5y agoCyrus Janssen, Daniel Dumbrill, Geopolitics In Conflict, Carl Zha, Brian Berletic.
- guscost 5y agoI’ll add these to my sources, thanks.
- arvigeus 5y agoCyrus was recently exposed as paid by CGTN. Dumbshill recently posted a clip of an old video of laowhy86, “exposing” him as a racist… which turned out to be taken extremely out of context and edited to be purposely misleading.
- FooBarWidget 5y agoYou should check his rebuttal to the "exposure" then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb-6fgN3MZA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb-6fgN3MZA Let people watch both and decide for themselves who to trust.
- arvigeus 5y agoHard to form an informative opinion when he released that AFTER he got exposed. It's possible that video is just him trying to save his skin. Just saying.
- spinny 5y agolaowhy86, serpentza
- FooBarWidget 5y agoHere's why both of them are not reliable sources: https://twitter.com/DanielDumbrill/status/1452109630792867842 https://twitter.com/DanielDumbrill/status/145210963079286784...
- frabbit 5y agoIn addition there was a marked change in tone from when they were in China. I subscribed and enjoyed that content and the two Exploring documentaries. Really good content. When they left China it started to sound like highly personalized hate speech. I initially assumed that it was because they were upset at having their livelihoods up-ended and a sense of rejection. But... initially they had great plans for wide-ranging travel documentaries which did not seem to pan out ... so it seems like the next-best thing is Five Minutes Hate against our enemies in East Asia. Sad to see them degenerate, but not living there now they are not much of a source of information.
- FooBarWidget 5y agoThis is exactly how I feel about laowhy86 and serpentza too. So much great content in the past but times have changed.
- anter 5y agoMind that some of those mentioned receive money from the CCP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOIrsmjRFxU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOIrsmjRFxU
- pphysch 5y agoAnd Sandy Hook was a false flag op, because grifters would never lie on the internet.
- FooBarWidget 5y agoWell here's what Cyrus Janssen has to say about accusations of him being paid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb-6fgN3MZA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb-6fgN3MZA TLDR: he didn't only not get paid, he refused payment. Plus the payment offer was not "we pay you to say this" but "we want to license your content for republication" and "we pay you a fee for the trouble of appearing on our show to give your independent opinions".
- guscost 5y agoYep, thanks.
- FooBarWidget 5y agoMind you, accused of being paid. I recommend you to watch arguments from both sides and then decide for yourself whether the accusation is right or not.
- guscost 5y agoAlright, mom! Sheesh!!
- coupdejarnac 5y agoThis has to be satire. Anyone looking to be informed about China would be better served by reading the Axios Sinocism newsletter.
- FooBarWidget 5y agoI don't believe that Axios is a better source. Maybe let people check both out and decide for themselves.
- coupdejarnac 5y agoHave you even read Sinocism? Your recommendations are very, very low quality.
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- pphysch 5y agoSinocism is the approximately the same level of quality as Jansen, Dumbrill, etc. That it caters to a particular crowd of liberal "China watchers", which you may be party to, does not make it higher quality. Axios is also known for producing outright disinformation on China via zealots like Allen-Ebrahimian.
- coupdejarnac 5y agoThis is laughable. Do you post to r/sino?
- pphysch 5y agoWhat is that?
- FooBarWidget 5y agoIt is a radically nationalist pro-China forum to the point where they regularly push anti-US conspiracy theories and regular usage of words like "Amerikkka".
- rectang 5y agoWhen weighing pphysch's media recommendations, consider that they apparently believe that applying Occam's Razor leads to the conclusion that "Washington media is blowing literally any scandal out of proportion in a propaganda blitz aimed at tarnishing Beijing 2022." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29344160 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29344160
- guscost 5y agoEh, I don’t really care which username recommends things on the internet, I care about finding more sources to expand my understanding. pphysch’s sources could very well be garbage, but I can decide that for myself.
- pphysch 5y agoNow why would I think that? > When the Chinese do it, it’s propaganda. When Washington does it, it’s “investing in our values”. The last phrase is taken from the Strategic Competition Act of 2021, newly passed by the United States Senate and will soon become law. It aims squarely at China and enjoys bipartisan support. Surely no trusted journalist would publish objective nonsense for a slice of that $300,000,000 propaganda budget created by the SCA21?
- hogFeast 5y agoIt is truly bizarre to me that someone who is taking a very pro-CCP stance will justify this with reference to propaganda that other nations create...it is really something. Every nation creates propaganda, every nation does not have media controlled by the state, every nation does not have massive propaganda departments that are present at all levels of society...they aren't equivalent, the only reason to draw the equivalence is because you understand that something is wrong but (for whatever reason) have to justify that to yourself by claiming everyone else is just as bad. It is like the Communist criticism of democracy: oh, elections are all rigged by wealthy people anyway...said from a country with no elections and a one-party state. Ofc.
- pphysch 5y ago
- pphysch 5y agoSure. What topics/sectors are you interested in?
- guscost 5y agoAsking this question pretty much reveals what you’re going to recommend. Obviously, I’m looking for opinions about: “CCP good, or CCP bad?”
- systemvoltage 5y agoDigging to China YT channel. Amazing coverage, objective and very sound.