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How is the specific content of her Weibo post relevant at all here? The issue is that the woman was kidnapped by the Chinese government because simple because

How is the specific content of her Weibo post relevant at all here? The issue is that the woman was kidnapped by the Chinese government because simple because she spoke out publicly, and it seems to me that the media’s reporting has been very complete in that regard. What specifically has been lacking?

9tailedkitsune 5y ago
Because the media doesn't just report on her safety, it also reports on what she said? And how they interpret what she said has significant impact on how people think what happened?
FooBarWidget 5y ago
It's fine if you don't think it's relevant. I am posting for those who do think it's relevant.
- miohtama 5y ago
  Thank you sir. It is always better to read the source. Though in this case, the most of the discussion is about how party protect its members against scandals and law. Poor woman.
- stefan_ 5y ago
  Hey, if only the native speakers could weigh in on this! Do you want to explain again why that isn't possible?
- mongol 5y ago
  Thanks for posting it. I found it relevant.
- legutierr 5y ago
  When I asked "how is the content of her post relevant here?" I meant: how is the content of the post relevant with regards to your assertion that the media's reporting has been incomplete? I also asked you what specifically has been lacking in those media reports. You are not just posting this information to share it. You are making a claim that the media's reporting has been incomplete, which claim you have not substantiated. So, I ask again, what specific relevant information has been lacking from media reports?
  - FooBarWidget 5y ago
    The whole context.
    - legutierr 5y ago
      I’m sorry, but what aspect of the context has been missing from the reporting? There was nothing in the post that you shared that I haven’t read about elsewhere in western media, with regards to the facts. That is, except perhaps for the emotional anguish that the poor woman was feeling, which can only really be discerned from her writing. The pain that led her to write this simply cannot be expressed accurately except through her own words. Is that what you meant? That the western media has not painted a sympathetic enough picture of Peng Shuai? That the media has been too deferential to the Chinese government in not giving her voice a platform?
      - FooBarWidget 5y ago
        Her emotional outpouring is relevant context. Whether that means that the media was or wasn't sympathetic enough, isn't my point. It also doesn't matter whether I think the media was/wasn't sympathetic enough. Letting people read the original post allow people to individually determine whether they agree with the media's interpretation. It's not up to me (or the media) to decide what interpretation is right: it's up to each individual. If you agree with the media's interpretation, good for you.
        legutierr 5y ago
        > If you agree with the media's interpretation, good for you. This sentence is rather condescending, and I believe it reveals something of your true intention here that you refuse to admit. There is something about Peng Suai’s post that you believe exonerates Chinese officials or the Chinese government in some way, but you are unwilling to explain what it is for some reason. > It's not up to me (or the media) to decide what interpretation is right: it's up to each individual. Humor me. What is the alternate interpretation of these events that you believe is missing from western media reports? What are the different interpretations that people may arrive at other than “the media’s interpretation” as you put it? > Letting people read the original post allow people to individually determine whether they agree with the media's interpretation. You seem not to agree with the “media’s interpretation”. Why not? Why in your opinion would anyone disagree with the media’s interpretation of events after reading Peng Shuai’s post?
burntbridge 5y ago
I heard about her disappearance from social media for a time. Can you link information about her kidnapping please.
- FooBarWidget 5y ago
  I am confused about your request. Are you asking for Chinese sources of her kidnapping?
- legutierr 5y ago
  Here is a general overview of events: https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/19/tennis/peng-shuai-china-explainer-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/19/tennis/peng-shuai-china-expla... Relevant quotes: > For almost three weeks following the accusation, Peng was not seen in public and her whereabouts were not publicly disclosed. > WTA chief Simon told CNN he had been in conversation with counterparts at the Chinese Tennis Association, who had provided assurances Peng was unharmed in Beijing. However, attempts to reach Peng directly had proved unsuccessful, he said. After her initial disappearance (not just from social media, but also from public) she has only been seen in stage-managed circumstances, only accompanied by state officials: > New video clips of the tennis star were tweeted by members of Chinese state media on November 20 and 21. > One clip appears to show Peng sitting with China Open tournament co-director Zhang Junhui and two women around a table in a restaurant in Beijing. The clips appear to deliberately emphasize specific dates. Throughout the video, Zhang is speaking to Peng, but she doesn't say anything. > Then later on Sunday, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) announced its President Thomas Bach held a video phone call with Peng. The two were accompanied on the call by a Chinese sports official, Li Lingwei, as well as the Chair of the Athletes' Commission, Emma Terho. The evidence points to her having been physically seized by state officials, who seem to be attempting to mitigate the PR crisis created by her accusations by controlling her physical person. Of course, this is only my opinion and personal interpretation of reported events.

9tailedkitsune 5y ago

Because the media doesn't just report on her safety, it also reports on what she said? And how they interpret what she said has significant impact on how people think what happened?

FooBarWidget 5y ago

It's fine if you don't think it's relevant. I am posting for those who do think it's relevant.

miohtama 5y ago
Thank you sir. It is always better to read the source. Though in this case, the most of the discussion is about how party protect its members against scandals and law. Poor woman.
stefan_ 5y ago
Hey, if only the native speakers could weigh in on this! Do you want to explain again why that isn't possible?
mongol 5y ago
Thanks for posting it. I found it relevant.
legutierr 5y ago
When I asked "how is the content of her post relevant here?" I meant: how is the content of the post relevant with regards to your assertion that the media's reporting has been incomplete? I also asked you what specifically has been lacking in those media reports. You are not just posting this information to share it. You are making a claim that the media's reporting has been incomplete, which claim you have not substantiated. So, I ask again, what specific relevant information has been lacking from media reports?
- FooBarWidget 5y ago
  The whole context.
  - legutierr 5y ago
    I’m sorry, but what aspect of the context has been missing from the reporting? There was nothing in the post that you shared that I haven’t read about elsewhere in western media, with regards to the facts. That is, except perhaps for the emotional anguish that the poor woman was feeling, which can only really be discerned from her writing. The pain that led her to write this simply cannot be expressed accurately except through her own words. Is that what you meant? That the western media has not painted a sympathetic enough picture of Peng Shuai? That the media has been too deferential to the Chinese government in not giving her voice a platform?
    - FooBarWidget 5y ago
      Her emotional outpouring is relevant context. Whether that means that the media was or wasn't sympathetic enough, isn't my point. It also doesn't matter whether I think the media was/wasn't sympathetic enough. Letting people read the original post allow people to individually determine whether they agree with the media's interpretation. It's not up to me (or the media) to decide what interpretation is right: it's up to each individual. If you agree with the media's interpretation, good for you.
      - legutierr 5y ago
        > If you agree with the media's interpretation, good for you. This sentence is rather condescending, and I believe it reveals something of your true intention here that you refuse to admit. There is something about Peng Suai’s post that you believe exonerates Chinese officials or the Chinese government in some way, but you are unwilling to explain what it is for some reason. > It's not up to me (or the media) to decide what interpretation is right: it's up to each individual. Humor me. What is the alternate interpretation of these events that you believe is missing from western media reports? What are the different interpretations that people may arrive at other than “the media’s interpretation” as you put it? > Letting people read the original post allow people to individually determine whether they agree with the media's interpretation. You seem not to agree with the “media’s interpretation”. Why not? Why in your opinion would anyone disagree with the media’s interpretation of events after reading Peng Shuai’s post?

burntbridge 5y ago

I heard about her disappearance from social media for a time. Can you link information about her kidnapping please.

FooBarWidget 5y ago
I am confused about your request. Are you asking for Chinese sources of her kidnapping?
legutierr 5y ago
Here is a general overview of events: https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/19/tennis/peng-shuai-china-explainer-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/19/tennis/peng-shuai-china-expla... Relevant quotes: > For almost three weeks following the accusation, Peng was not seen in public and her whereabouts were not publicly disclosed. > WTA chief Simon told CNN he had been in conversation with counterparts at the Chinese Tennis Association, who had provided assurances Peng was unharmed in Beijing. However, attempts to reach Peng directly had proved unsuccessful, he said. After her initial disappearance (not just from social media, but also from public) she has only been seen in stage-managed circumstances, only accompanied by state officials: > New video clips of the tennis star were tweeted by members of Chinese state media on November 20 and 21. > One clip appears to show Peng sitting with China Open tournament co-director Zhang Junhui and two women around a table in a restaurant in Beijing. The clips appear to deliberately emphasize specific dates. Throughout the video, Zhang is speaking to Peng, but she doesn't say anything. > Then later on Sunday, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) announced its President Thomas Bach held a video phone call with Peng. The two were accompanied on the call by a Chinese sports official, Li Lingwei, as well as the Chair of the Athletes' Commission, Emma Terho. The evidence points to her having been physically seized by state officials, who seem to be attempting to mitigate the PR crisis created by her accusations by controlling her physical person. Of course, this is only my opinion and personal interpretation of reported events.