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Solving the turing test, or getting close to. Basically, being able to have a real conversation with a computer. Of course with the restriction, that a AI smart

Solving the turing test, or getting close to. Basically, being able to have a real conversation with a computer. Of course with the restriction, that a AI smart enough to solve the turing test, might also already be smart enough to not solve it ... But to be honest, I see no indications of any true AI happening anytime soon. And then it would still be a big step, from AI to an allmighty, allknowing AI.

celdon25 5y ago
The Turing test hasn't been relevant in years. And what's a "True AI" if you're also implying that it's not able to self-improve? Not sure about this comment, Jim.
- bryan0 5y ago
  Why is it no longer relevant? Seems like it would be the first good indicator if something can pass it.
  - Jensson 5y ago
    People made simple if/else statement programs that passed the turing test like a decade ago. The realization was that you didn't need to make a smart agent to solve it, you just needed to make it assertive and make a conversation that is easy to predict.
    - bryan0 5y ago
      Maybe you’re talking about a different variation of the Turing test than I am. I think any reasonable test is nowhere close to being solved. The key part is that both the human and the AI are both trying to convince a properly trained judge they are human in a general open-ended conversation. I know some variations have humans pretending they are computers or something which is completely backwards for a Turing Test.
- hutzlibu 5y ago
  "And what's a "True AI" if you're also implying that it's not able to self-improve?" Where did I imply such? We do not really understand "intelligence" yet. So the step of assuming if a digital intelligence comes into being also automatically means, it is able to recoursivly improve itself to godlike capabilities is just a vague hypothesis, not a fact. It might as well be the intelligence of a autistic crow. Also sure, many humans fail the turing test, too. It is still a very strong indicator, of whether something is really intelligent, or just trying to fake intelligence by diversion tactics, like the chatbots do that try the turing test.
Jerrrry 5y ago
Millions fail the Turing test every hour, every day. News articles, comments, and even full discourse (back and forth), is already a staple of any internet forum space.

celdon25 5y ago

The Turing test hasn't been relevant in years. And what's a "True AI" if you're also implying that it's not able to self-improve? Not sure about this comment, Jim.

bryan0 5y ago
Why is it no longer relevant? Seems like it would be the first good indicator if something can pass it.
- Jensson 5y ago
  People made simple if/else statement programs that passed the turing test like a decade ago. The realization was that you didn't need to make a smart agent to solve it, you just needed to make it assertive and make a conversation that is easy to predict.
  - bryan0 5y ago
    Maybe you’re talking about a different variation of the Turing test than I am. I think any reasonable test is nowhere close to being solved. The key part is that both the human and the AI are both trying to convince a properly trained judge they are human in a general open-ended conversation. I know some variations have humans pretending they are computers or something which is completely backwards for a Turing Test.
hutzlibu 5y ago
"And what's a "True AI" if you're also implying that it's not able to self-improve?" Where did I imply such? We do not really understand "intelligence" yet. So the step of assuming if a digital intelligence comes into being also automatically means, it is able to recoursivly improve itself to godlike capabilities is just a vague hypothesis, not a fact. It might as well be the intelligence of a autistic crow. Also sure, many humans fail the turing test, too. It is still a very strong indicator, of whether something is really intelligent, or just trying to fake intelligence by diversion tactics, like the chatbots do that try the turing test.

Jerrrry 5y ago

Millions fail the Turing test every hour, every day. News articles, comments, and even full discourse (back and forth), is already a staple of any internet forum space.