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I mean. Emacs has the ability to do basically what vim does. Evil mode is really nice (though I can never get used the = register evaluating elisp instead of vi

I mean. Emacs has the ability to do basically what vim does. Evil mode is really nice (though I can never get used the = register evaluating elisp instead of vimscript). What kills me about emacs is the startup time. Breaks my flow when I'm jumping around and need to edit something quickly. Though I'll admit that doom provides a very nice environment for when I want to play around with some lisp.

cyberbanjo 5y ago
Use emacsclient and don't close emacs server. Super fast startup (for emacs). There is a guide on emacswiki afaicr
- a_e_k 5y ago
  I've had M-x emacs-uptime hit nearly 200 days before. It takes a little effort to get used to that style of working, but it's definitely handy once you do. (Also, I alias ec="emacsclient -n" in my shell.)
tarboreus 5y ago
Run Emacs as a server. Then open with emacsclient. Instant and you have access to the same process you've been using with all the buffers, etc. emacs --daemon emacsclient <fie>
- Jtsummers 5y ago
  emacs --daemon=<name> emacsclient -s <name> Useful for when you have different contexts and want to separate them more cleanly.
- FrenchyJiby 5y ago
  Absolutely worth it, but it needs mentioned that bundled in Emacs is a sytemd job for launching the server at user login(!!!): systemctl --user enable emacs.service # For next login systemctl --user start emacs.service # launches it just this once This means I never have to even THINK "I should boot the editor", because it's already ready. Add a keyboard shortcut for emacsclient and you're golden
  - nanna 5y ago
    Brilliant! Thanks for sharing. Info on setting up: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsAsDaemon https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsAsDaemon https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsClient https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsClient
rthomas6 5y ago
Check out Doom Emacs for a fast startup time with no server.
- ByteJockey 5y ago
  I mention using doom in the last line of the comment you responded to. But, yeah. I use it for the start up time/vim compatibility out of the box.
michael-ax 5y ago
emacsclient can also talk to multiple emacs-servers by name. this is awesome to keep different sets of buffers available. also, there's zile.
- ByteJockey 5y ago
  It's still not instantaneous like `vim .` is. Also it leaves me outside of my terminal. I know, I know, just don't leave emacs, but that's not how I work. I appreciate the tip about zile though. That looks cool.
clircle 5y ago
I use vanilla Emacs with 145 packages and my startup time is 0.9 sec on a 6 y/o thinkpad. With deferred evaluation, there is no need to use a daemon.
- toolazytomain 5y ago
  Is your initial hosted anywhere? I'm interested in how you implement that.
  - clircle 5y ago
    No, the configuration is private. At this point, many of the tricks are well known, so you probably don't need to see my config to get a fast emacs. Here is a great starting point: https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/f3ed3r/comment/fhicvbj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/f3ed3r/comment/fhicv... The maintainer of Doom responded with a good list of improvements that he uses in his distribution to achieve fast startup. If you transplant all of them into your configuration, your startup time would probably be 1-2 sec.

cyberbanjo 5y ago

Use emacsclient and don't close emacs server. Super fast startup (for emacs). There is a guide on emacswiki afaicr

a_e_k 5y ago
I've had M-x emacs-uptime hit nearly 200 days before. It takes a little effort to get used to that style of working, but it's definitely handy once you do. (Also, I alias ec="emacsclient -n" in my shell.)

tarboreus 5y ago

Run Emacs as a server. Then open with emacsclient. Instant and you have access to the same process you've been using with all the buffers, etc. emacs --daemon emacsclient <fie>

Jtsummers 5y ago
emacs --daemon=<name> emacsclient -s <name> Useful for when you have different contexts and want to separate them more cleanly.
FrenchyJiby 5y ago
Absolutely worth it, but it needs mentioned that bundled in Emacs is a sytemd job for launching the server at user login(!!!): systemctl --user enable emacs.service # For next login systemctl --user start emacs.service # launches it just this once This means I never have to even THINK "I should boot the editor", because it's already ready. Add a keyboard shortcut for emacsclient and you're golden
- nanna 5y ago
  Brilliant! Thanks for sharing. Info on setting up: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsAsDaemon https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsAsDaemon https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsClient https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsClient

rthomas6 5y ago

Check out Doom Emacs for a fast startup time with no server.

ByteJockey 5y ago
I mention using doom in the last line of the comment you responded to. But, yeah. I use it for the start up time/vim compatibility out of the box.

michael-ax 5y ago

emacsclient can also talk to multiple emacs-servers by name. this is awesome to keep different sets of buffers available. also, there's zile.

ByteJockey 5y ago
It's still not instantaneous like `vim .` is. Also it leaves me outside of my terminal. I know, I know, just don't leave emacs, but that's not how I work. I appreciate the tip about zile though. That looks cool.

clircle 5y ago

I use vanilla Emacs with 145 packages and my startup time is 0.9 sec on a 6 y/o thinkpad. With deferred evaluation, there is no need to use a daemon.

toolazytomain 5y ago
Is your initial hosted anywhere? I'm interested in how you implement that.
- clircle 5y ago
  No, the configuration is private. At this point, many of the tricks are well known, so you probably don't need to see my config to get a fast emacs. Here is a great starting point: https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/f3ed3r/comment/fhicvbj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/f3ed3r/comment/fhicv... The maintainer of Doom responded with a good list of improvements that he uses in his distribution to achieve fast startup. If you transplant all of them into your configuration, your startup time would probably be 1-2 sec.