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Competitor naming schemes? SEO hacking? This case study mentions only one brand - their client. Can you please elaborate what do you mean by that?

tentacleuno 5y ago
Sorry, to be clear I'm not accusing anyone. Just responding to OP's point about the 'hack' he pointed out the blog post was using. I am not entirely sure what is being referred to, but would be interested to hear if anyone has any ideas?
- thechilliguy 5y ago
  Also, this is NOT a blog post case study. If anyone hasn't read it yet, it's a YouTube case study. Totally different.
- thechilliguy 5y ago
  Yeah, people are complaining that one of the strategies was using tags and mentioning competitors in 20% of those tags. But it looks like they aren't too familiar with the YouTube tagging system. No hard feelings, you can't please everyone! :D
jacquesm 5y ago
"20% should be other channels’ names" Utterly disgusting.
- thechilliguy 5y ago
  That's how the YouTube tagging system works, though.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    No, that's how you are (ab)using it. Youtube tags are definitely not intended to be used to try to divert traffic intended for competitors to your pages.
    - tentacleuno 5y ago
      Just re-read the post and no, that type of thing certainly isn't ideal. Apologies, OP. I'm still not sure if it's technically effectual with the YT algorithm, though. Would be an interesting talking point, that's for sure.
      - thechilliguy 5y ago
        It's not an unethical hack, it actually helps the YT algorithm understand what category is the video part of. This works especially well in this scenario because kalari is a very narrow niche. Tags do not boost your SEO at all, they rather help your video appear in the Recommended Videos section on the right of a YT video. When I tagged competitors I was simply telling YT that it can show the videos to people watching another video from one of KalariLab's competitors. There are 3 main ways to get views on YT when your channel is small: 1. SEO; 2. Homepage recommendations; 3. Recommended videos on other video pages. The tactic with tags works only for the 3rd category above. I hope that settles this discussion once and for all. Sidenote: I still don't understand why this post was flagged...
        jacquesm 5y ago
        It's interesting to see the pretzels you twist yourself into in order to pretend that this is the intended way to use Youtube's tagging system. Whether you are doing it to hack the recommended videos section or whether you are doing it to benefit from some other means of discovery doesn't matter: you are engaging in deception. People watching your customers' competitors are not yours to target through their brands, but you can target them through keywords that describe the content, not to use the names of your competitors. The fact that you are still arguing this is proof positive to me that you are an unethical operator and that this is not just an innocent mistake. This post was flagged because it is low value, unethical and ultimately an attempt to do to HN what you are already doing to youtube. You will find that HN has considerably more effective anti-bodies against SEO 'specialists' (I use the term liberally) hijacking the audience than youtube has.
- yolo123x 5y ago
  domain squatting and profiteering... utterly disgusting https://jacquesmattheij.com/domains-for-sale/ https://jacquesmattheij.com/domains-for-sale/
jareklupinski 5y ago
reverse image searching author's picture https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://conversion-apps.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/dan-300x300.png&imgrefurl=https://conversion-apps.com/blog/8-best-shopify-apps-in-2021/&h=300&w=300&tbnid=BA9Y_D96ptnEUM&tbnh=225&tbnw=225&usg=AI4_-kQjAXb5sQiK4liFc6NTQzYahXCIPg&vet=1&docid=YzCaJTJdCtPAmM&itg=1&hl=en https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://conversion-apps... https://conversion-apps.com/blog/8-best-shopify-apps-in-2021/ https://conversion-apps.com/blog/8-best-shopify-apps-in-2021... SEO games all the way down :)
- jacquesm 5y ago
  Oh, he's a spammer too. Not surprising I guess.

tentacleuno 5y ago

Sorry, to be clear I'm not accusing anyone. Just responding to OP's point about the 'hack' he pointed out the blog post was using. I am not entirely sure what is being referred to, but would be interested to hear if anyone has any ideas?

thechilliguy 5y ago
Also, this is NOT a blog post case study. If anyone hasn't read it yet, it's a YouTube case study. Totally different.
thechilliguy 5y ago
Yeah, people are complaining that one of the strategies was using tags and mentioning competitors in 20% of those tags. But it looks like they aren't too familiar with the YouTube tagging system. No hard feelings, you can't please everyone! :D

jacquesm 5y ago

"20% should be other channels’ names" Utterly disgusting.

thechilliguy 5y ago
That's how the YouTube tagging system works, though.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  No, that's how you are (ab)using it. Youtube tags are definitely not intended to be used to try to divert traffic intended for competitors to your pages.
  - tentacleuno 5y ago
    Just re-read the post and no, that type of thing certainly isn't ideal. Apologies, OP. I'm still not sure if it's technically effectual with the YT algorithm, though. Would be an interesting talking point, that's for sure.
    - thechilliguy 5y ago
      It's not an unethical hack, it actually helps the YT algorithm understand what category is the video part of. This works especially well in this scenario because kalari is a very narrow niche. Tags do not boost your SEO at all, they rather help your video appear in the Recommended Videos section on the right of a YT video. When I tagged competitors I was simply telling YT that it can show the videos to people watching another video from one of KalariLab's competitors. There are 3 main ways to get views on YT when your channel is small: 1. SEO; 2. Homepage recommendations; 3. Recommended videos on other video pages. The tactic with tags works only for the 3rd category above. I hope that settles this discussion once and for all. Sidenote: I still don't understand why this post was flagged...
      - jacquesm 5y ago
        It's interesting to see the pretzels you twist yourself into in order to pretend that this is the intended way to use Youtube's tagging system. Whether you are doing it to hack the recommended videos section or whether you are doing it to benefit from some other means of discovery doesn't matter: you are engaging in deception. People watching your customers' competitors are not yours to target through their brands, but you can target them through keywords that describe the content, not to use the names of your competitors. The fact that you are still arguing this is proof positive to me that you are an unethical operator and that this is not just an innocent mistake. This post was flagged because it is low value, unethical and ultimately an attempt to do to HN what you are already doing to youtube. You will find that HN has considerably more effective anti-bodies against SEO 'specialists' (I use the term liberally) hijacking the audience than youtube has.
yolo123x 5y ago
domain squatting and profiteering... utterly disgusting https://jacquesmattheij.com/domains-for-sale/ https://jacquesmattheij.com/domains-for-sale/

jareklupinski 5y ago

reverse image searching author's picture https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://conversion-apps.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/dan-300x300.png&imgrefurl=https://conversion-apps.com/blog/8-best-shopify-apps-in-2021/&h=300&w=300&tbnid=BA9Y_D96ptnEUM&tbnh=225&tbnw=225&usg=AI4_-kQjAXb5sQiK4liFc6NTQzYahXCIPg&vet=1&docid=YzCaJTJdCtPAmM&itg=1&hl=en https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://conversion-apps... https://conversion-apps.com/blog/8-best-shopify-apps-in-2021/ https://conversion-apps.com/blog/8-best-shopify-apps-in-2021... SEO games all the way down :)

jacquesm 5y ago
Oh, he's a spammer too. Not surprising I guess.