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DISCLAIMER: I'm living in Poland. That song went viral during lockdowns, as it was a part of the deepfake video with the Minister of Health of that time, who h

by st4lz 5y ago

DISCLAIMER: I'm living in Poland. That song went viral during lockdowns, as it was a part of the deepfake video with the Minister of Health of that time, who had eyes with dark rings around them at the tv conferences (probably makeup), indicating he is working day and night to fight the pandemic. The healthcare quality decreased and the successes were only visible in state-controlled media, while multiple accusations of corruption in buying the medical equipment. Before he resigned, he complained that he can't stop himself reading multiple jokes and memes about him appearing online every day. The lyrics translation: "It's the only thing in my mind, 5g of cocaine..." Link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COzSF-7_6Dc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COzSF-7_6Dc

randycupertino 5y ago
It is a pretty good song, and I like the juxtaposition of the lyrics being about fighting depression vs the upbeat catchy tune. Does Poland still have state-controlled media? I'm Polish (living in the US, though have visited 2x) but wasn't aware that still existed there.
- KptMarchewa 5y ago
  Yes, and they spew north korea-level propaganda.
- atraac 5y ago
  TVP is practically owned by a leading party, it’s a propaganda tube by now. And it’s not even subtle, it’s North Korea level now.
- shameless_plug 5y ago
  Pretty much every mainstream media in Poland are "North Korea style propaganda" (as another commenter named it), just depending on which political camp people are they will call the other part of mainstream propaganda. People who voted for this government would call TVN propaganda, people who hate this government call TVP propaganda. This extends to radio and press. And people who don't vote because there is no political option with sensible program in many cases don't watch TV or listen to the radio..
  - pixl97 5y ago
    I dont know anything about the stations, but it's always possible that both stations are propaganda.
    - deleted 5y ago
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  - garaetjjte 5y ago
    There's no comparison between PiS and any other government that was before. They are on wholly different level. Trying to muddle things by saying the other side it also bad is just disingenuous. >And people who don't vote because there is no political option with sensible program You say that as if not voting was some virtue, it's not, and one of the reasons for the situation we are currently in.
    - shameless_plug 5y ago
      Both camps say exactly what you said, blaming politicians glorified by other camp. Not voting is not a virtue, especially when nobody comes up with sensible program. Easiest way to disconnect mentally from this hate race is not to watch TV :)
      - garaetjjte 5y ago
        Yeah, better to bury your head in the sand and wait until we're in autocratic country de facto outside the EU. This is not a contest for perfect politician where opposing sides have different loud opinions but ultimately all would do acceptable job governing the country. PiS is not playing by the democratic rules, they are consistently taking over all the institutions and filling them with own pawns, and it's of critical importance to stop them.
        shameless_plug 5y ago
        I don't vote for "less evil" and I do remember what most of these politicians were saying and voting 20-25 years ago. Based on that experience I came to conclusion that life is too short to worry about any political party or agendas they proclaim. In the same time I respect your opinion. Peace.
- ajuc 5y ago
  The problem isn't that they are state controlled. They were pretty good for a while (between 1989 and 2015). Maybe biased, but the rules about equal time for each party etc. were respected and journalists from both sides of the political spectrum had their programs there no matter who was in power at the time (for example very anti-PO Ziemkiewicz and Wildstein during PO terms). The problem is that the current government took over prosecutors, judges, media oversight institutions, constitutional court, basically all institutions that were supposed to protect media neutrality and rule of law - and openly ignores the rules. Since 2015 it goes worse and worse and by now it's basically North Korea level. I'm not joking, this was in the state media before presidential elections: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9O3tc21cU0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9O3tc21cU0 Whenever they show Donald Tusk (one of leaders of opposition) in TVP they put his voice through distortion so he sounds like Darth Vader. And they cut to him saying stuff in German every few minutes as it has bad associations in Polish :)
  - shameless_plug 5y ago
    It would be good to hear somebody from the other side of the spectrum so the reader who does not live in Poland can develop unbiased opinion. From my observations supporters of current government was saying exactly the same thing before this government was elected.
    - ajuc 5y ago
      You'll have a hard time finding their supporters on English-speaking internet, especially now when they lost young people after the abortion scandal. At any rate I was stating falsifiable facts. For example the law says that all political parties should have time on state TV according to their percentage of votes from previous elections. Here is the charts of TV time when previous government (PO) were controlling media and when current government (PIS) does: https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_KV0oMf1z6dv7AywTSaVlrELEbxMo10y6,w400.jpg https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_KV0oMf1z6dv7AywTSa... PIS had about 37% support in 2018, PO had about 30% support in 2014. This is not cherry-picked btw, the percentage gets worse with time, here's data from 2019: https://twitter.com/szczesniak__a/status/1228076766998278144/photo/1 https://twitter.com/szczesniak__a/status/1228076766998278144... Regarding breaking the rule of law - EU courts ruled that the changes PIS made were breaking the rule of law. Even PIS lawyers agree with that (for example Krystyna Pawłowicz admited the changes were "obviously unconstitutional, but we agreed with President Duda that we will vote for them"). She got nominated by President Duda for the next judge at constutitional tribunal after that. You can find video of the quote, it's not manipulated. They basically changed the law shortening the retirement age for judges so that judges older than X were immediately fired so they can replace all of them at once - making the highest Polish court fully staffed with their people. Constitution says the judges cannot be replaced before term and PIS doesn't have 66% required to change the constitution, but they just introduce the law anyway and as they have their people in courts - whatever they say goes. And their people got to the courts by breaking the constitution in the first place. So now we have 2 legal systems in Poland - the government one and the legal one. And we pay fines to EU because of that. It's a mess.

by st4lz 5y ago

randycupertino 5y ago

It is a pretty good song, and I like the juxtaposition of the lyrics being about fighting depression vs the upbeat catchy tune. Does Poland still have state-controlled media? I'm Polish (living in the US, though have visited 2x) but wasn't aware that still existed there.

KptMarchewa 5y ago
Yes, and they spew north korea-level propaganda.
atraac 5y ago
TVP is practically owned by a leading party, it’s a propaganda tube by now. And it’s not even subtle, it’s North Korea level now.
shameless_plug 5y ago
Pretty much every mainstream media in Poland are "North Korea style propaganda" (as another commenter named it), just depending on which political camp people are they will call the other part of mainstream propaganda. People who voted for this government would call TVN propaganda, people who hate this government call TVP propaganda. This extends to radio and press. And people who don't vote because there is no political option with sensible program in many cases don't watch TV or listen to the radio..
- pixl97 5y ago
  I dont know anything about the stations, but it's always possible that both stations are propaganda.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
- garaetjjte 5y ago
  There's no comparison between PiS and any other government that was before. They are on wholly different level. Trying to muddle things by saying the other side it also bad is just disingenuous. >And people who don't vote because there is no political option with sensible program You say that as if not voting was some virtue, it's not, and one of the reasons for the situation we are currently in.
  - shameless_plug 5y ago
    Both camps say exactly what you said, blaming politicians glorified by other camp. Not voting is not a virtue, especially when nobody comes up with sensible program. Easiest way to disconnect mentally from this hate race is not to watch TV :)
    - garaetjjte 5y ago
      Yeah, better to bury your head in the sand and wait until we're in autocratic country de facto outside the EU. This is not a contest for perfect politician where opposing sides have different loud opinions but ultimately all would do acceptable job governing the country. PiS is not playing by the democratic rules, they are consistently taking over all the institutions and filling them with own pawns, and it's of critical importance to stop them.
      - shameless_plug 5y ago
        I don't vote for "less evil" and I do remember what most of these politicians were saying and voting 20-25 years ago. Based on that experience I came to conclusion that life is too short to worry about any political party or agendas they proclaim. In the same time I respect your opinion. Peace.
ajuc 5y ago
The problem isn't that they are state controlled. They were pretty good for a while (between 1989 and 2015). Maybe biased, but the rules about equal time for each party etc. were respected and journalists from both sides of the political spectrum had their programs there no matter who was in power at the time (for example very anti-PO Ziemkiewicz and Wildstein during PO terms). The problem is that the current government took over prosecutors, judges, media oversight institutions, constitutional court, basically all institutions that were supposed to protect media neutrality and rule of law - and openly ignores the rules. Since 2015 it goes worse and worse and by now it's basically North Korea level. I'm not joking, this was in the state media before presidential elections: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9O3tc21cU0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9O3tc21cU0 Whenever they show Donald Tusk (one of leaders of opposition) in TVP they put his voice through distortion so he sounds like Darth Vader. And they cut to him saying stuff in German every few minutes as it has bad associations in Polish :)
- shameless_plug 5y ago
  It would be good to hear somebody from the other side of the spectrum so the reader who does not live in Poland can develop unbiased opinion. From my observations supporters of current government was saying exactly the same thing before this government was elected.
  - ajuc 5y ago
    You'll have a hard time finding their supporters on English-speaking internet, especially now when they lost young people after the abortion scandal. At any rate I was stating falsifiable facts. For example the law says that all political parties should have time on state TV according to their percentage of votes from previous elections. Here is the charts of TV time when previous government (PO) were controlling media and when current government (PIS) does: https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_KV0oMf1z6dv7AywTSaVlrELEbxMo10y6,w400.jpg https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_KV0oMf1z6dv7AywTSa... PIS had about 37% support in 2018, PO had about 30% support in 2014. This is not cherry-picked btw, the percentage gets worse with time, here's data from 2019: https://twitter.com/szczesniak__a/status/1228076766998278144/photo/1 https://twitter.com/szczesniak__a/status/1228076766998278144... Regarding breaking the rule of law - EU courts ruled that the changes PIS made were breaking the rule of law. Even PIS lawyers agree with that (for example Krystyna Pawłowicz admited the changes were "obviously unconstitutional, but we agreed with President Duda that we will vote for them"). She got nominated by President Duda for the next judge at constutitional tribunal after that. You can find video of the quote, it's not manipulated. They basically changed the law shortening the retirement age for judges so that judges older than X were immediately fired so they can replace all of them at once - making the highest Polish court fully staffed with their people. Constitution says the judges cannot be replaced before term and PIS doesn't have 66% required to change the constitution, but they just introduce the law anyway and as they have their people in courts - whatever they say goes. And their people got to the courts by breaking the constitution in the first place. So now we have 2 legal systems in Poland - the government one and the legal one. And we pay fines to EU because of that. It's a mess.