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Not enough cues? Hell, more like actively pushing and misleading you to buy from third-party sellers even when you explicitly filter by first-party only. Why wo

Not enough cues? Hell, more like actively pushing and misleading you to buy from third-party sellers even when you explicitly filter by first-party only. Why would they leave potential sales on the table?

lotsofpulp 5y ago
Amazon was bad when they removed the option to filter shipped and sold by Amazon many years ago. I thought Walmart was better, and it is because they let you filter for retailer as Walmart only, but recently they made it so it resets the filter every time you search. I cannot blame them, since retail profit margins are so low. But as a buyer, I try to direct my purchases to the retailers that make it easy for me to not deal with resellers. So I try to use Home Depot/Lowes/staples/Best Buy more often. Target is decent, but they also have more and more third party sellers now and do the same thing as Walmart.
- swader999 5y ago
  Yeah it's great to keep it local. /s
  - lotsofpulp 5y ago
    How this is related to my comment? The purpose of buying something sold by the big box stores is to have a higher probability of them having vetted it or their source and it not being counterfeit, since they have to deal with the costs of the returns.
  - jrootabega 5y ago
    It is sad sometimes that we have to choose between alien and predator
- headmelted 5y ago
  I wonder about exactly this though. What if some counterfeit device/toy is so toxic/dangerous as to kill someone? Who’s liable? I’m sure the store’s lawyers have pretty strong opinions but how would a jury view that if the brand of the store is plastered all over the checkout page? (Has this ever happened/been tested in court?)
  - pvaldes 5y ago
    If China Export logo cloning the European Community logo go with it unscathed, the perspectives of doing somebody about that aren't bright. People buy at their own risk in such big companies.
    - klondike_ 5y ago
      There is no such thing as a "China Export" logo. The familiar CE logo is a voluntary mark and manufacturers determine whether the item qualifies to use it or not. There has never been an organization enforcing the use of this mark.
      - pvaldes 5y ago
        https://siloscordoba.com/blog/corporate/china-export-is-not-ce-a-symbol-to-cause-confusion/ https://siloscordoba.com/blog/corporate/china-export-is-not-...
      - nrp 5y ago
        That is incorrect for most product categories: https://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/ce-marking/manufacturers_en https://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/ce-marking/manufac... As of this year, there are even stricter requirements to have an in-region Authorized Representative to back up any claims of compliance: https://blog.clevercompliance.io/ce-marking/responsibilities-and-mandate-of-an-eu-authorised-representative/ https://blog.clevercompliance.io/ce-marking/responsibilities...
- danudey 5y ago
  I solved this problem by filtering for "Prime" shipping, until one day I noticed that I was getting free Prime shipping on a third-party sale that shipped from China and would arrive in 30-45 days. If it's gonna take over a month to deliver and it's not a car, it better damn well be free shipping. Now I solve the problem by only ordering from more local companies; Best Buy is surely not local, but the local best buy is a lot more local than Chinese third-party sellers of counterfeit goods. Oh, and let's not forget that Amazon allows you to ship counterfeits and claim they're real, and then Amazon will mix them all together and sell your counterfeits to their customers and their legitimate products to your customers.

lotsofpulp 5y ago

Amazon was bad when they removed the option to filter shipped and sold by Amazon many years ago. I thought Walmart was better, and it is because they let you filter for retailer as Walmart only, but recently they made it so it resets the filter every time you search. I cannot blame them, since retail profit margins are so low. But as a buyer, I try to direct my purchases to the retailers that make it easy for me to not deal with resellers. So I try to use Home Depot/Lowes/staples/Best Buy more often. Target is decent, but they also have more and more third party sellers now and do the same thing as Walmart.

swader999 5y ago
Yeah it's great to keep it local. /s
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  How this is related to my comment? The purpose of buying something sold by the big box stores is to have a higher probability of them having vetted it or their source and it not being counterfeit, since they have to deal with the costs of the returns.
- jrootabega 5y ago
  It is sad sometimes that we have to choose between alien and predator
headmelted 5y ago
I wonder about exactly this though. What if some counterfeit device/toy is so toxic/dangerous as to kill someone? Who’s liable? I’m sure the store’s lawyers have pretty strong opinions but how would a jury view that if the brand of the store is plastered all over the checkout page? (Has this ever happened/been tested in court?)
- pvaldes 5y ago
  If China Export logo cloning the European Community logo go with it unscathed, the perspectives of doing somebody about that aren't bright. People buy at their own risk in such big companies.
  - klondike_ 5y ago
    There is no such thing as a "China Export" logo. The familiar CE logo is a voluntary mark and manufacturers determine whether the item qualifies to use it or not. There has never been an organization enforcing the use of this mark.
    - pvaldes 5y ago
      https://siloscordoba.com/blog/corporate/china-export-is-not-ce-a-symbol-to-cause-confusion/ https://siloscordoba.com/blog/corporate/china-export-is-not-...
    - nrp 5y ago
      That is incorrect for most product categories: https://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/ce-marking/manufacturers_en https://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/ce-marking/manufac... As of this year, there are even stricter requirements to have an in-region Authorized Representative to back up any claims of compliance: https://blog.clevercompliance.io/ce-marking/responsibilities-and-mandate-of-an-eu-authorised-representative/ https://blog.clevercompliance.io/ce-marking/responsibilities...
danudey 5y ago
I solved this problem by filtering for "Prime" shipping, until one day I noticed that I was getting free Prime shipping on a third-party sale that shipped from China and would arrive in 30-45 days. If it's gonna take over a month to deliver and it's not a car, it better damn well be free shipping. Now I solve the problem by only ordering from more local companies; Best Buy is surely not local, but the local best buy is a lot more local than Chinese third-party sellers of counterfeit goods. Oh, and let's not forget that Amazon allows you to ship counterfeits and claim they're real, and then Amazon will mix them all together and sell your counterfeits to their customers and their legitimate products to your customers.