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Oh good golly yes please we need innovation in this space. I'm so tired of having cell phone calls and video calls with long latencies. Latency is so disrupti

Oh good golly yes please we need innovation in this space. I'm so tired of having cell phone calls and video calls with long latencies. Latency is so disruptive to the normal flow of conversation. If there was a reliable low-latency alternative I would try to hold all my regular convos over it, starting with family calls and proceeding to work and professional calls if feasible.

agret 5y ago
Mumble is pretty great for low-latency audio. TeamSpeak3 too.
- Moru 5y ago
  Less great for setting up at your it-challenged friends though. And most people expect some phone call interface that beeps at them when they get a call.
- jagger27 5y ago
  When Discord first launched and my usual TeamSpeak friends moved over there I was super annoyed by the extra latency. How a group of fairly serious gamers who otherwise complained about less lag in any other circumstance shrugged it off, I'm not sure. More recently, I was surprised by low latency was between two Asterisk servers in the same city on different ISPs. It was a very adhoc setup with a cheap EOL Cisco IP phone on either end connected to an Asterisk SIP server on the local network. I'm so used to laggy voice chat that it actually caught me off guard how nice it was once I actually got it to work. Besides being a total nightmare to configure. I struggle enough in person to find the right time to talk without interrupting, and >100ms of Discord latency makes it that much worse for me. I hope something peer-to-peer like this catches on for remote teams. I could really benefit from it. I don't think I would mind if a screen share lagged behind the speaker's voice. I'm sure Zoom already does that though.
  - WolfRazu 5y ago
    You should be getting considerably less latency than that. Is the Discord server perhaps set to the wrong region?
    - jagger27 5y ago
      The server I normally talk on is on US East, which is as close as I can get in Canada. To be clear, I don’t have hard numbers on the actual voice-to-ear lag I’m experiencing, and of course it depends about a dozen different factors. I just know that it could feel better.
torginus 5y ago
Networks just suck, period. Imo, in WebRTC (which powers stuff like Zoom or Teams), there's nothing in particular that adds latency - connections can be peer-to-peer and it uses UDP under the hood, with latency optimized codecs, from that point, there's little left on the table, that can't be traced back to poor network quality.

agret 5y ago

Mumble is pretty great for low-latency audio. TeamSpeak3 too.

Moru 5y ago
Less great for setting up at your it-challenged friends though. And most people expect some phone call interface that beeps at them when they get a call.
jagger27 5y ago
When Discord first launched and my usual TeamSpeak friends moved over there I was super annoyed by the extra latency. How a group of fairly serious gamers who otherwise complained about less lag in any other circumstance shrugged it off, I'm not sure. More recently, I was surprised by low latency was between two Asterisk servers in the same city on different ISPs. It was a very adhoc setup with a cheap EOL Cisco IP phone on either end connected to an Asterisk SIP server on the local network. I'm so used to laggy voice chat that it actually caught me off guard how nice it was once I actually got it to work. Besides being a total nightmare to configure. I struggle enough in person to find the right time to talk without interrupting, and >100ms of Discord latency makes it that much worse for me. I hope something peer-to-peer like this catches on for remote teams. I could really benefit from it. I don't think I would mind if a screen share lagged behind the speaker's voice. I'm sure Zoom already does that though.
- WolfRazu 5y ago
  You should be getting considerably less latency than that. Is the Discord server perhaps set to the wrong region?
  - jagger27 5y ago
    The server I normally talk on is on US East, which is as close as I can get in Canada. To be clear, I don’t have hard numbers on the actual voice-to-ear lag I’m experiencing, and of course it depends about a dozen different factors. I just know that it could feel better.

torginus 5y ago

Networks just suck, period. Imo, in WebRTC (which powers stuff like Zoom or Teams), there's nothing in particular that adds latency - connections can be peer-to-peer and it uses UDP under the hood, with latency optimized codecs, from that point, there's little left on the table, that can't be traced back to poor network quality.