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> I consider the human eye a camera. It also saves videos in a storage medium that doesn't permit deletion The key distinction is that the human eye and its st

> I consider the human eye a camera. It also saves videos in a storage medium that doesn't permit deletion The key distinction is that the human eye and its storage system doesn't meaningfully support duplication and distribution of the picture. What someone saw is not going to show up in Clearview's biometric surveillance database years later, and while this one human may remember me, the inherent limitations of humans mean that the impact is vastly different from what is possible with technology.

dheera 5y ago
> The key distinction is that the human eye and its storage system doesn't meaningfully support duplication and distribution of the picture. That isn't necessarily true. Just because your eye doesn't doesn't mean mine doesn't. How do you know I wasn't born blind and retrofitted with a silicon eye that gives me both the ability to see and record/duplicate more easily than other humans?
- midev 5y ago
  > How do you know I wasn't born blind and retrofitted with a silicon eye that gives me both the ability to see and record/duplicate more easily than other humans? Because this technology literally does not exist. What an absurd response. Your analogy was bad. Take the loss.
- Edman274 5y ago
  This is a bad faith reply. Non-existent hypothetical devices are not worth considering when talking about the morality of something that someone does today.
  - dheera 5y ago
    I choose to frame my view of morality in terms of technological developments that are likely to happen in the next 100 years (approximately a human lifetime for anyone born today), not what exists today. Today is antiquated as soon as something is invented something tomorrow. "Hypothetical" is an assumption. You don't know what I have, and what I'm experimenting with.
  - shard 5y ago
    I saw this a while ago, Argus II implant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ee61Bu-Ok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ee61Bu-Ok It exists, albeit only B&W and at a very low resolution. However as we all know, technology can advance very quickly, and high resolution cameras are not inconceivable for this application.
tshaddox 5y ago
I don’t know. I’d be roughly as uncomfortable with someone tweeting to a large audience that they saw me at a certain location at a certain time as I would be with someone posting a photo of me to a large audience.
- tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
  That's the difference though. It doesn't happen in practice if you aren't famous, because the person with the eye can only do a limited number of things at the same time, and spending all day tweeting about random people isn't what most people want to spend their time on.

dheera 5y ago

> The key distinction is that the human eye and its storage system doesn't meaningfully support duplication and distribution of the picture. That isn't necessarily true. Just because your eye doesn't doesn't mean mine doesn't. How do you know I wasn't born blind and retrofitted with a silicon eye that gives me both the ability to see and record/duplicate more easily than other humans?

midev 5y ago
> How do you know I wasn't born blind and retrofitted with a silicon eye that gives me both the ability to see and record/duplicate more easily than other humans? Because this technology literally does not exist. What an absurd response. Your analogy was bad. Take the loss.
Edman274 5y ago
This is a bad faith reply. Non-existent hypothetical devices are not worth considering when talking about the morality of something that someone does today.
- dheera 5y ago
  I choose to frame my view of morality in terms of technological developments that are likely to happen in the next 100 years (approximately a human lifetime for anyone born today), not what exists today. Today is antiquated as soon as something is invented something tomorrow. "Hypothetical" is an assumption. You don't know what I have, and what I'm experimenting with.
- shard 5y ago
  I saw this a while ago, Argus II implant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ee61Bu-Ok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ee61Bu-Ok It exists, albeit only B&W and at a very low resolution. However as we all know, technology can advance very quickly, and high resolution cameras are not inconceivable for this application.

tshaddox 5y ago

I don’t know. I’d be roughly as uncomfortable with someone tweeting to a large audience that they saw me at a certain location at a certain time as I would be with someone posting a photo of me to a large audience.

tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
That's the difference though. It doesn't happen in practice if you aren't famous, because the person with the eye can only do a limited number of things at the same time, and spending all day tweeting about random people isn't what most people want to spend their time on.