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> If my work is bringing in $X in revenue whether I'm sitting in a chair in an office building you're leasing or at home, I don't see why my share of that shoul

> If my work is bringing in $X in revenue whether I'm sitting in a chair in an office building you're leasing or at home, I don't see why my share of that should be any less. This is a common but fundamental misunderstanding of what determines your salary. Your salary is determined by the market, with the tacit assumption that the total revenue generated by your employment will exceed the total cost of your salary & other costs over the course of your career.

staticautomatic 5y ago
And yet that cost goes down when employers don’t pay for your office space…
- actually_a_dog 5y ago
  And my cost goes up when I pay for my own office space.
  - isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y ago
    But you don't have a commute and can do stuff at home during work.
    - actually_a_dog 5y ago
      So? That doesn't net me money during salary negotiation.
      - sokoloff 5y ago
        If it means that some actually-a-dog2 realizes that they prefer it enough to work for 5% less, then you need to compete with that.
      - jjk166 5y ago
        Let's say you get paid $100/hr for 8 hours per day of work, or $800/day. Now let's say you have to commute an hour round trip to and from work. Since you need to commute to get paid, it takes you 9 hours to earn that $800. Thus your real hourly wage is $88.89/hr. The person who doesn't need to commute works no harder, but it only takes them 8 hours to earn the same wage. They effectively have an 11% higher wage than the commuter, all else being equal. They could work for $95/hr, making them the more attractive option for the employer, while still being better off than the commuter.
throwawaythekey 5y ago
> This is a common but fundamental misunderstanding of what determines your salary. Your salary is determined by the market... Location based adjustments are replacing this misunderstanding with a different misunderstanding which is roughly "The market rate for the position is determined by where *the employee* lives, not by the many others elsewhere that would be qualified by the job"

staticautomatic 5y ago

And yet that cost goes down when employers don’t pay for your office space…

actually_a_dog 5y ago
And my cost goes up when I pay for my own office space.
- isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y ago
  But you don't have a commute and can do stuff at home during work.
  - actually_a_dog 5y ago
    So? That doesn't net me money during salary negotiation.
    - sokoloff 5y ago
      If it means that some actually-a-dog2 realizes that they prefer it enough to work for 5% less, then you need to compete with that.
    - jjk166 5y ago
      Let's say you get paid $100/hr for 8 hours per day of work, or $800/day. Now let's say you have to commute an hour round trip to and from work. Since you need to commute to get paid, it takes you 9 hours to earn that $800. Thus your real hourly wage is $88.89/hr. The person who doesn't need to commute works no harder, but it only takes them 8 hours to earn the same wage. They effectively have an 11% higher wage than the commuter, all else being equal. They could work for $95/hr, making them the more attractive option for the employer, while still being better off than the commuter.

throwawaythekey 5y ago

> This is a common but fundamental misunderstanding of what determines your salary. Your salary is determined by the market... Location based adjustments are replacing this misunderstanding with a different misunderstanding which is roughly "The market rate for the position is determined by where *the employee* lives, not by the many others elsewhere that would be qualified by the job"