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You can buy a decent starter house for under 100k in Mississippi, Missouri, Virginia, Kansas, and a bunch of other places. Real estate is mostly only inflated i

You can buy a decent starter house for under 100k in Mississippi, Missouri, Virginia, Kansas, and a bunch of other places. Real estate is mostly only inflated in top cities and competitive vacation/retirement towns. Look at Laurel and Hattiesburg MS for example. Decent towns with families, schools, breweries, hipster cafés, largely all the jazz people clamor over in expensive towns. And look at the real estate prices over there.

stocknoob 5y ago
I don't know if you're joking, but most people in CA don't want to move to places that are still deciding to keep confederate monuments in front of courthouses. https://apnews.com/article/mississippi-referendums-elections-courts-hattiesburg-135408d2e57cce11a45f74eb9f61426f https://apnews.com/article/mississippi-referendums-elections...
- 01100011 5y ago
  If people in CA and NY don't want to keep being upset that they lost another presidential election then they need to consider moving to a less comfortable state and voting. Liberals concentrate in a few enclaves and then get upset when the rules they have to play by don't give them what they want. The US is arranged to empower the flyover states and complaining about it won't change it.
- president 5y ago
  I live in CA and have never met a single person who has ever given a single thought to the idea of confederate monuments. This is an idea spawned by a fringe group and amplified by the media for tribal political reasons.
  - wallacoloo 5y ago
    eh, some truth, but media bleeds into IRL. to the contrary, i have met people who care about statues and monuments. perhaps somewhat surprisingly, the number of retirees around me who have initiated discussion around such things (or even taken action like parading/protesting local confederate-related statues) exceeds the number of millennials who have done so. but yes, overall only a small proportion of people i know really care about these things
- zionic 5y ago
  That just quantifies the costs of their political beliefs then.
  - throwawaygh 5y ago
    Yes, political belief is the only possible reason I can think of that someone would be weary of moving to a state that celebrates the confederacy... no other personal attribute could possibly explain that preference... /s Also, as someone who grew up in the rural midwest: the statue thing is kind of silly and a distraction. The real problem with the southern midwest is that you get what you pay for. The schools are god-awful; often you can't even buy a good education with infinite money. Even the "good" schools are only parochially good; transfer them to a coast and they're embarrassingly bad. The local employers don't provide interesting work, and professional networking opportunities are niche to non-existent. (Crime too. Contrary to popular perception, the wealthier coastal cities have a far better handle on crime at least in the areas where wealthy tech workers typically live. SF might be an exception, not sure. Thinking mostly of the northeast and PNW. In the rural midwest, you'll get meth heads with shotguns even in nicer suburbs. Cheap housing is a great equalizer, for better and for worse.)
- shrimpx 5y ago
  I’m not joking. But California is a really bad example because it still ignorantly celebrates the Spanish conquests that murdered, displaced, and whitewashed American Natives — see all the parks and roads named after Spanish conquistadors with plaques and monuments. E.g., De Anza.
- ripper1138 5y ago
  Twitter /= real life

stocknoob 5y ago

I don't know if you're joking, but most people in CA don't want to move to places that are still deciding to keep confederate monuments in front of courthouses. https://apnews.com/article/mississippi-referendums-elections-courts-hattiesburg-135408d2e57cce11a45f74eb9f61426f https://apnews.com/article/mississippi-referendums-elections...

01100011 5y ago
If people in CA and NY don't want to keep being upset that they lost another presidential election then they need to consider moving to a less comfortable state and voting. Liberals concentrate in a few enclaves and then get upset when the rules they have to play by don't give them what they want. The US is arranged to empower the flyover states and complaining about it won't change it.
president 5y ago
I live in CA and have never met a single person who has ever given a single thought to the idea of confederate monuments. This is an idea spawned by a fringe group and amplified by the media for tribal political reasons.
- wallacoloo 5y ago
  eh, some truth, but media bleeds into IRL. to the contrary, i have met people who care about statues and monuments. perhaps somewhat surprisingly, the number of retirees around me who have initiated discussion around such things (or even taken action like parading/protesting local confederate-related statues) exceeds the number of millennials who have done so. but yes, overall only a small proportion of people i know really care about these things
zionic 5y ago
That just quantifies the costs of their political beliefs then.
- throwawaygh 5y ago
  Yes, political belief is the only possible reason I can think of that someone would be weary of moving to a state that celebrates the confederacy... no other personal attribute could possibly explain that preference... /s Also, as someone who grew up in the rural midwest: the statue thing is kind of silly and a distraction. The real problem with the southern midwest is that you get what you pay for. The schools are god-awful; often you can't even buy a good education with infinite money. Even the "good" schools are only parochially good; transfer them to a coast and they're embarrassingly bad. The local employers don't provide interesting work, and professional networking opportunities are niche to non-existent. (Crime too. Contrary to popular perception, the wealthier coastal cities have a far better handle on crime at least in the areas where wealthy tech workers typically live. SF might be an exception, not sure. Thinking mostly of the northeast and PNW. In the rural midwest, you'll get meth heads with shotguns even in nicer suburbs. Cheap housing is a great equalizer, for better and for worse.)
shrimpx 5y ago
I’m not joking. But California is a really bad example because it still ignorantly celebrates the Spanish conquests that murdered, displaced, and whitewashed American Natives — see all the parks and roads named after Spanish conquistadors with plaques and monuments. E.g., De Anza.
ripper1138 5y ago
Twitter /= real life