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Hope this won't lead to more smoking in public places. Every time I notice people consuming or having have had consumed the drug in some form, I found it even m
by daptaq 5y ago
Hope this won't lead to more smoking in public places. Every time I notice people consuming or having have had consumed the drug in some form, I found it even more insufferable than day-to-day cigarettes.
- iaabtpbtpnn 5y agoYou sound like you could use a puff from a joint.
- rconti 5y agoIt seems fairly obvious that the subset of circumstances in which you become aware someone HAS ingested a drug (and is therefore intoxicated) would be more annoying than the superset of circumstances in which you merely see that someone is beginning to consume a drug.
- ohazi 5y agoNot necessarily. If it's the smoke and smell that bothers me rather than intoxicated antics, I might be more annoyed by someone lighting up at the coffee table next to mine than if they were just sitting there stoned out of their mind.
- iostream23 5y agoTotally legit. I smoke at home or hidden away from sight or bothering others with the smell. I was referring to the op who is seemed to say they were irritated by other’s consuming cannabis, which irritates me, as it’s some apparatus designed to mess me up with no regard to my preference in remaining unmussed.
- daptaq 5y agoThere must have been a misunderstanding. I don't care about consumption per se, just the effect that smoking in public spaces has on my nose.
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y agoYou know what has more effect on my nose in public spaces than any smoke? The stink of people, be it perfume, deodorant, hairspray, or the utter lack of washing and cleaning hair and clothes, sometimes even their breath from afar. Well at least pre-corona. Now I don't notice it so often, since I don't share that much space & time with them anymore. Anyway, that can even cause tears in my eyes and a strange sting in the nose, making it run. Smoke of any kind doesn't.
- iostream23 5y agoI’ve smoked daily since I was 14. I don’t get intoxicated, it’s my psychiatric meds, and I don’t take kindly to meddlesome youngsters who think they know how to run my life better than I do, lol… /s ironic sarcastic reference to the notion that someone could ever be more sober or miserable than I am. I only work and have basically no fun and I’ve not had a day off in years, so I wish to be clear that people who character cannabis users as either lazy or intoxicated are tiresome and ignorant.
- oblak 5y agook, I'll bite. Why is it worse, I mean "insufferable"? The whole point is not to be hunted for the horrible crime of smoking a joint. Is it any worse than drinking coffee or something? I think not but you obviously have your reservations.
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- daptaq 5y agoI find it hard to breathe in spaces where people had either smoked Marijuana. The smell of something like coffee is far less invasive, so it doesn't disturb me as much.
- dahfizz 5y ago> Is it any worse than drinking coffee or something? Yeah, that's the nature of smoking. You're forcing everyone else around you to breathe your smoke and smell your dank weed. You can drink your coffee, but you wouldn't try to force your coffee down my throat.
- oblak 5y agoHey, I am not advocating smoking of any kind near other people. That's just wrong. Just saying there are all kinds of bad smells/stuff in the air. I, for one, can't stand most cars. They smell bad and make a lot of noise.
- pimeys 5y agoIn Berlin tobacco and weed smoke is everywhere. I don't really see how legalizing weed would make it any worse. People already smoke it in bars and on the streets and Germany loves their cigarettes too...
- daptaq 5y agoSure, in cities like Berlin I am not surprised to here that more people consume it. But outside of big cities, I rarely encounter it. The only reason I don't like this legalisation, is that with the drug being more easy to obtain, more people might smoke it, leading to more smoke in public (at train stations, in parks, ...). I hope I am wrong, but intuitively this seems plausible.
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- givemeethekeys 5y agoWhile smoking cigarettes isn't illegal, it is certainly not a good look any more - thanks to controls on how it can be advertised and where it is allowed and the concentrated advertising campaign linking smoking to cancer. I can see marijuana taking a similar trajectory.
- iostream23 5y agoExcepting that it’s not linked to cancer. Grant you that the majority of German “kieferen” mix with tobacco, as is the fashion. Tobacco is unhealthy, all medical evidence suggests completely different results from long term pure cannabis consumption and either alcohol or tobacco consumption. Hopefully regulators will consider evidence when determining appropriate regulations
- daptaq 5y agoThis is basically my hope too. I don't want the advances that have been made in removing tobacco from public spaces to be undone by legalising marijuana. It is great that it won't be treated as a criminal act to use/possess/sell it, but I don't want this to make smoking (be it with a different substance) more acceptable.
- iostream23 5y agoI’m unclear on what you are complaining about: other people enjoying other vices than your own or air pollution. While a particular odor to the stated air pollution can involve a personal preference, the odor is question arguably emits fewer carcinogenic substances and the rolling papers and filters involved certainly pollute less. Single-pull pipe smoking is rather common in some places, meaning the consumer makes one inhalation and exhalation of smoke and is done, not to mention the ubiquitous vaporizer. I do hope you aren’t merely trodding on the relief of cannabis consumers not being legally repressed anymore, as that would be a prejudice 100+ years out of date. One additional point: you mention “having had consumed” meaning you feel at liberty to decide what other humans mental states should be?
- robocat 5y agoHN guidelines: “Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.”, and “Be kind. Don't be snarky.”. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html I presumed the commenter is just extremely sensitive to the smell. The people I know like that don’t have a choice - it seems they are biologically like that. They could have meant what you said… You could politely discover what they mean. If they were being rude, then perhaps try and help them to be more polite, to create a better community here. And IMHO downvoting is quick and appropriate if the comment is low value or inflammatory. Edit: you are inflaming the situation with multiple low quality comments on the parent comment - please don’t do that. I am not a mod - I am just a user that wants this to be a friendly and informative place for everyone including you.
- iostream23 5y agoI’ve addressed all your concerns in other comments here. I do believe that you should follow your own proposals and see that I mean no snark and am 100 earnest and engaged here. Please do read my other comments here. I have a personal stake in this and as such the OP is definitively treading on the tips of my toes, and it hurts, please stop.
- quickthrowman 5y agoThis morning I went outside and my city smelled like shit because of pig farms that are over a hundred miles away.