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We don’t know the long-term strategy. We’re literally looking at the data coming out of Israel month-to-month to determine how long the boosters will be effecti
by bryan0 5y ago
We don’t know the long-term strategy. We’re literally looking at the data coming out of Israel month-to-month to determine how long the boosters will be effective.
- guerrilla 5y agoWhy only Israel?
- spullara 5y agoThey have the highest vaccination rates the earliest.
- guerrilla 5y agoDo you happen to know how they manage that ahead of the small northern European countries?
- jsnell 5y agoThey paid Pfizer a lot more per dose than other countries. There were also reports that they were willing to share data on outcomes more freely (or less bureaucracy) than normal.
- bryan0 5y agohttps://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/617780/ https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/617780/ Basically they negotiated to be Pfizer’s testbed / data partner for full rollout of the vaccine.
- ars 5y agoThey are very very small, so when supplies were tight it didn't take many doses to fully vaccinate them, and then they are the lab test of the world. They are WAY smaller than even the small northern European countries. They also have a very integrated very high tech medical data system, with complete info on each person, medical history, doses, everything in one file.
- guerrilla 5y agoTheir population is the same as ours in Sweden, the biggest Nordic country, while Belgium is only slightly bigger and Switzerland slightly smaller and we're all richer (their GDP is 200bn less than ours for example.) We all also have a very integrated high tech medical data systems with complete info on each person, medical history, doses, everything in one file (and works anywhere in the country.) So there must be a difference in policy.
- compsciphd 5y agoyes, it was basically the one thing most people would agree that Netanyahu got right (at least if you're not an anti-vaxxer). He basically didn't wait for the vaccine, he went to Pfizer with a plan and worked closely with them to get it to fit their needs.
- WorldMaker 5y agoI believe the answer there is military enforced/backed vaccine mandate. To my knowledge so far Israel is the only state in the world to in some cases quite literally put guns to people's heads to take the vaccine. Don't know if it is the right approach or not, but in world vaccination statistics it has been a leading approach.
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- compsciphd 5y agothat's not true. there are plenty of anti vaxxers in Israel who have not been vaccinated. With that said, people who want to work (and have to work from an office setting) would have to pay for a test every 72 hours or so out of their own pocket. Of course if work from home, less of an issue. So, they've made it difficult for people to live their lives without being vaxxed, but they haven't put a gun to anyone's head or thrown anyone in jail for the simple act of not being vaccinated.
- bigodbiel 5y agoMany Orthodox Jewish communities outrightly refused vaccines and implementing the mandates. These communities saw the largest outbreaks, nonetheless there could never be. forced vaccination mandate in Israel
- bigodbiel 5y agoFrom outlier to harbinger.
- bryan0 5y agoThat’s true. There were many people, including commenters on HN, recommending people ignore Israel’s booster data and recommendations because it was an “outlier”