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But what is your problem with this? Do you really care which JVM is being packaged or you are just picking on something that isn't a problem? Have you had a pr

But what is your problem with this? Do you really care which JVM is being packaged or you are just picking on something that isn't a problem? Have you had a problem running IntelliJ IDEA? I am pretty sure that if I was distributing a very, very complex Java application for a very, very wide variety of audience (like people who aren't even developers because IDEA also caters to these people) I would distribute it with JVM packaged. And then the user should not care which JVM exactly is being distributed. You only need to care about the end result. Let me know the last time you cared which version of JVM is used by any of the SAS products you subscribe to.

darksaints 5y ago
Yes, I care. Because while jetbrains makes an excellent IDE in terms of functionality, they have extremely shitty startup times and garbage collection pauses. These are both areas that have received a lot of attention in the reference JVM in the versions subsequent to their fork. All of the performance problems literally disappear by using a newer OpenJDK version, but then the GUI starts to look and act weird. I don't know why you would assume that I am asking for them to not package a JDK at all. That's a fucking absurd assumption, and nothing i have said has even suggested that. All I'm asking for is for them to upstream their improvements and package their IDEs with OpenJDK by default so we don't have to choose between Jetbrains improvements or OpenJDK improvements.