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Having worked for years with overseas contractors, I’m really not too concerned about my job security

by dymk 5y ago

amf12 5y ago
The problem with overseas contractors is - you get what you pay for. There are still excellent contractors out there who charge more, but still less than what employees get paid here. The second problem is discoverability. It is difficult to find those excellent contractors from all the not-so-good ones out there.
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jollybean 5y ago
So being a 'contractor' and 'not connected' is a problem. But once they have the PM, designers, architect and devs. 'on staff' and all 'over there' - then you are the 'not connected' contractor. Moreover 'they' are getting better across the board. Japan made crap until they made the best cars in the world. China made crap but now they have the top 5G gear and all of the patents, and would wipe out a big chunk of Western companies were it not for 'security' and other issues. Americans are fairly instantly replaceable with Canadians, Aussies, Brits, and almost as easily replaceable with French, Italian and Germans etc. 'Remote Work' is like an 'unlimited, free H1B' program. Many jobs are safe, but many are not.
- d0gsg0w00f 5y ago
  > Remote Work' is like an 'unlimited, free H1B' program. As someone who manages people in many different countries from the US I can definitively say this is not true. You have to comply with local labor laws wherever you hire your employees. For example, many countries like Poland, England, and France require very longer notice periods and changes in job responsibilities can be a sticky legal issue. HR has to be equipped to handle all of these nuances.
- FredPret 5y ago
  Japan made crap and then they made the best cars in the world. And then they also starting making some real good salaries. This was a great development all round. If every third-world country follows the South Korea / Japan playbook, the world economy would absolutely explode with growth, and US workers would certainly benefit from this.
62951413 5y ago
In typical SFBA companies I meet mostly token Americans. So there's a huge foreign workforce with many years of local experience, a non-trivial proportion with already with citizenship. With the current trends in American politics I'd expect a large number of them to be open to going back home for only $100K or so. I would. Living 10-11 time zones from CA is a big deal though.

Having worked for years with overseas contractors, I’m really not too concerned about my job security

by dymk 5y ago

Having worked for years with overseas contractors, I’m really not too concerned about my job security

The problem with overseas contractors is - you get what you pay for. There are still excellent contractors out there who charge more, but still less than what employees get paid here. The second problem is discoverability. It is difficult to find those excellent contractors from all the not-so-good ones out there.

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jollybean 5y ago

So being a 'contractor' and 'not connected' is a problem. But once they have the PM, designers, architect and devs. 'on staff' and all 'over there' - then you are the 'not connected' contractor. Moreover 'they' are getting better across the board. Japan made crap until they made the best cars in the world. China made crap but now they have the top 5G gear and all of the patents, and would wipe out a big chunk of Western companies were it not for 'security' and other issues. Americans are fairly instantly replaceable with Canadians, Aussies, Brits, and almost as easily replaceable with French, Italian and Germans etc. 'Remote Work' is like an 'unlimited, free H1B' program. Many jobs are safe, but many are not.

d0gsg0w00f 5y ago
> Remote Work' is like an 'unlimited, free H1B' program. As someone who manages people in many different countries from the US I can definitively say this is not true. You have to comply with local labor laws wherever you hire your employees. For example, many countries like Poland, England, and France require very longer notice periods and changes in job responsibilities can be a sticky legal issue. HR has to be equipped to handle all of these nuances.
FredPret 5y ago
Japan made crap and then they made the best cars in the world. And then they also starting making some real good salaries. This was a great development all round. If every third-world country follows the South Korea / Japan playbook, the world economy would absolutely explode with growth, and US workers would certainly benefit from this.

62951413 5y ago

In typical SFBA companies I meet mostly token Americans. So there's a huge foreign workforce with many years of local experience, a non-trivial proportion with already with citizenship. With the current trends in American politics I'd expect a large number of them to be open to going back home for only $100K or so. I would. Living 10-11 time zones from CA is a big deal though.