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You are cherry picking outliers to argue against a claim about a general trend. It really does not matter how hard this or that particular individual worked. W
by vletal 5y ago
You are cherry picking outliers to argue against a claim about a general trend.
It really does not matter how hard this or that particular individual worked. What matters is statistics which describes the opportunity of an anonymous Joe in the society.
- rbanffy 5y agoIt really depends on what kind of mobility we are talking about. The wealth and influence of the individuals I mentioned is pretty much impossible to reach unless you have optimal initial conditions. As the saying goes, the easiest way to become a millionaire is to be born a billionaire. Even if you are born a mere millionaire, you can make many more attempts at becoming a billionaire than a person who needs to work in order to have dinner. There is a lot of statistics that point that current levels of social mobility are on par with feudal England and, while a modest improvement in conditions is very achievable for those who aren’t born in the most unforgiving situations, the remaining possible paths are very much closed.
- vletal 5y agoI kind of expected that we are talking about the basic mobility, such as my wife coming from a low income blue collar family becoming an upper-middle class architect. Not the chance of becoming a super-rich or super-powerful.
- rbanffy 5y agoIt's kind of a caste society where you can have some mobility, but you can't really move out of your place in society.