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She is 33 and was 25 when they met. That is not "extremely young". She's a mature adult, and presumably she knows what she's doing.

by Veen 5y ago

ModernMech 5y ago
He’s an extremely wealthy divorcé in his mid 60s. She’s a 33 year old model… which is well past the top end of that career, with two children, who is now the VP of Adams’ WhenHub. I think it’s clear everyone in that relationship knows what they are doing. Doesn’t make it any less the fact that he’s old enough to be her father.
- Veen 5y ago
  Is this a American cultural quirk I'm not understanding? Who cares that he's old enough to be her father? Why is it interesting or relevant? He married an attractive younger woman. She married a rich older man. It happens every day all over the world. Its not the first marriage for either of them and they both already have children. It says very little about either person involved except that one likes attractive women and the other likes rich men with a sense of humor (if we assume the most cynical motivations).
  - time_to_smile 5y ago
    > Is this a American cultural quirk I'm not understanding? As an American I would say: yes, it is. I suspect it has something to do with the rising neoteny of more recent generations coupled with America's persistent puritanical views on sex, but there has been an increasingly bizarre fixation on the age gap of couples. All teenagers have recently be re-defined as children, so much that it's common on places like reddit to view even attraction to say a 17 year old viewed as a form of pedophilia. For nearly all of human history men over 30 forming relationships with women in their late teens has been normal. This was even not too rare 30 or so years ago in the US. But there has been a rising moral panic about age and sex that leads to comments like the above.
    - monocasa 5y ago
      So wait, it's simultaneously a Puritanical hang up from the past, and also contrary to the way things have always been?
      - inkblotuniverse 5y ago
        Maybe America's puritany is just conserved. As its ire shifts away from some thing as they become liberalised/destigmatised, it shifts onto others.
- stickfigure 5y ago
  > Doesn’t make it any less the fact that he’s old enough to be her father. Honest question: So what? Why does that trouble you? I would understand if one side was indeed "extremely" young, but 60s/30s are unquestionably adults, and there don't seem to be any consent issues.
  - ModernMech 5y ago
    It doesn’t trouble me personally, I stated the facts of the matter and that my interpretation of it is that everyone is getting what they want. Others here have stated it weirds them out and that’s fine too. It’s well known in our society that this kind of age gap can be problematic for some. We have little “rules” about it (https://xkcd.com/314/ https://xkcd.com/314/), which are just societal norms. Scott Adam falls out of this norm and it makes people uncomfortable, as norm-breaking tends to do. One question people might ask is, why don’t you date someone your own age? There are a lot of reasons one could answer, but when one says something like “I don’t talk about where we met. People make judgments”, and they are already breaking norms, then I think it’s fine some people have reservations. Not that those reservations mean anything to anyone, but it’s not an unreasonable feeling to have when confronted with such an unconventional relationship.
monocasa 5y ago
We're not saying it should be illegal, we're saying it's creepy. The general rule is you can go down to half your age plus seven years. That makes anyone over 36 creepy for dating a 25 year old.
- Veen 5y ago
  That's what I'm struggling to understand. Who is being creepy? Who has behaved in a creepy way? Adams or his wife? What does creepy even mean in the context of two adults forming a relationship? Why is it anyone else's business? (To be clear, I'm no fan of Adams. I dislike his politics and never enjoyed his work particularly. But I find this focus on his marriage weird and, I suppose, creepy in itself).
- jp_sc 5y ago
  Are you a teenager? Believing after college age that that "rule" is some kind of law is kind of ridiculous
  - monocasa 5y ago
    60yos dating 25yos is creepy to nearly everyone.
- mikestew 5y ago
  The general rule is you can go down to half your age plus seven years. Where'd you dig that out of, a back issue of Cosmopolitan, right next to the "partner compatibility" quiz? Two grown, consenting adults don't need your approval to hook up, no matter the age difference. Calling it "creepy" is simply arrogant and self-righteous, with a sprinkling of tone-deaf on top. There's plenty to not like about the other Scott Adams. His choice of partner is not one of them.
  - monocasa 5y ago
    There's peer reviewed studies that validate that range. One example: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2001-01742-002 https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2001-01742-002 I find it really amusing that the hate I'm getting on this seems to be coming from older men.

She is 33 and was 25 when they met. That is not "extremely young". She's a mature adult, and presumably she knows what she's doing.

by Veen 5y ago

She is 33 and was 25 when they met. That is not "extremely young". She's a mature adult, and presumably she knows what she's doing.

ModernMech 5y ago

He’s an extremely wealthy divorcé in his mid 60s. She’s a 33 year old model… which is well past the top end of that career, with two children, who is now the VP of Adams’ WhenHub. I think it’s clear everyone in that relationship knows what they are doing. Doesn’t make it any less the fact that he’s old enough to be her father.

Veen 5y ago
Is this a American cultural quirk I'm not understanding? Who cares that he's old enough to be her father? Why is it interesting or relevant? He married an attractive younger woman. She married a rich older man. It happens every day all over the world. Its not the first marriage for either of them and they both already have children. It says very little about either person involved except that one likes attractive women and the other likes rich men with a sense of humor (if we assume the most cynical motivations).
- time_to_smile 5y ago
  > Is this a American cultural quirk I'm not understanding? As an American I would say: yes, it is. I suspect it has something to do with the rising neoteny of more recent generations coupled with America's persistent puritanical views on sex, but there has been an increasingly bizarre fixation on the age gap of couples. All teenagers have recently be re-defined as children, so much that it's common on places like reddit to view even attraction to say a 17 year old viewed as a form of pedophilia. For nearly all of human history men over 30 forming relationships with women in their late teens has been normal. This was even not too rare 30 or so years ago in the US. But there has been a rising moral panic about age and sex that leads to comments like the above.
  - monocasa 5y ago
    So wait, it's simultaneously a Puritanical hang up from the past, and also contrary to the way things have always been?
    - inkblotuniverse 5y ago
      Maybe America's puritany is just conserved. As its ire shifts away from some thing as they become liberalised/destigmatised, it shifts onto others.
stickfigure 5y ago
> Doesn’t make it any less the fact that he’s old enough to be her father. Honest question: So what? Why does that trouble you? I would understand if one side was indeed "extremely" young, but 60s/30s are unquestionably adults, and there don't seem to be any consent issues.
- ModernMech 5y ago
  It doesn’t trouble me personally, I stated the facts of the matter and that my interpretation of it is that everyone is getting what they want. Others here have stated it weirds them out and that’s fine too. It’s well known in our society that this kind of age gap can be problematic for some. We have little “rules” about it (https://xkcd.com/314/ https://xkcd.com/314/), which are just societal norms. Scott Adam falls out of this norm and it makes people uncomfortable, as norm-breaking tends to do. One question people might ask is, why don’t you date someone your own age? There are a lot of reasons one could answer, but when one says something like “I don’t talk about where we met. People make judgments”, and they are already breaking norms, then I think it’s fine some people have reservations. Not that those reservations mean anything to anyone, but it’s not an unreasonable feeling to have when confronted with such an unconventional relationship.

monocasa 5y ago

We're not saying it should be illegal, we're saying it's creepy. The general rule is you can go down to half your age plus seven years. That makes anyone over 36 creepy for dating a 25 year old.

Veen 5y ago
That's what I'm struggling to understand. Who is being creepy? Who has behaved in a creepy way? Adams or his wife? What does creepy even mean in the context of two adults forming a relationship? Why is it anyone else's business? (To be clear, I'm no fan of Adams. I dislike his politics and never enjoyed his work particularly. But I find this focus on his marriage weird and, I suppose, creepy in itself).
jp_sc 5y ago
Are you a teenager? Believing after college age that that "rule" is some kind of law is kind of ridiculous
- monocasa 5y ago
  60yos dating 25yos is creepy to nearly everyone.
mikestew 5y ago
The general rule is you can go down to half your age plus seven years. Where'd you dig that out of, a back issue of Cosmopolitan, right next to the "partner compatibility" quiz? Two grown, consenting adults don't need your approval to hook up, no matter the age difference. Calling it "creepy" is simply arrogant and self-righteous, with a sprinkling of tone-deaf on top. There's plenty to not like about the other Scott Adams. His choice of partner is not one of them.
- monocasa 5y ago
  There's peer reviewed studies that validate that range. One example: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2001-01742-002 https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2001-01742-002 I find it really amusing that the hate I'm getting on this seems to be coming from older men.