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> One complaint that I have about the Lutron system is that they don't offer relay-based modules. Yes they do, here is the cutsheet: https://www.lutron.com/Tec

> One complaint that I have about the Lutron system is that they don't offer relay-based modules. Yes they do, here is the cutsheet: https://www.lutron.com/TechnicalDocumentLibrary/369-549b_English.pdf https://www.lutron.com/TechnicalDocumentLibrary/369-549b_Eng... This one can switch 5A using a Pico input device. Just to be clear, every commercial lighting controls line has relay modules, it’s necessary for occupancy sensing.

gwbas1c 5y ago
I came across that a few years ago. I'm not sure why I didn't use it. I suspect it's because I wasn't sure if it'd work with the hub, or if it was pico-only. At least as far as controlling the outlet for holiday lighting: It is a 15-amp circuit, and I could easily anticipate plugging in a power-hungry tool at some time.
- quickthrowman 5y ago
  In that case, there’s also a 16A version! (16A is 80% of 20A) It’s only rated for up to 1/2 HP motors. If your 120v power tool is over ~10A, you’d want to have the power pack trigger a motor-rated line-voltage contactor, and that contactor would turn the power on and off. https://www.lutron.com/ExternalTechnicalDocumentLibrary/AL-16A-PP-specsheet.pdf https://www.lutron.com/ExternalTechnicalDocumentLibrary/AL-1...
criddell 5y ago
Do you know if they have a simple smart outlet? I want to use one with my Christmas tree lights because getting to the switch is difficult. I looked on Amazon and didn't see anything so I ended up ordering a cheap Refoss device that I have very low expectations for.
- paisawalla 5y ago
  Yes, Lutron has indoor and outdoor variants: https://www.casetawireless.com/products/smart-plugs https://www.casetawireless.com/products/smart-plugs
  - criddell 5y ago
    The indoor version is a lamp dimmer. I just want a simple on/off outlet. The outdoor version is functionally close to what I want, but it’s big and ugly - something I don’t want inside. This seems like a hole in their lineup.
    - paisawalla 5y ago
      A dimmer is a superset, in functionality, of a binary switch. Using the Lutron app or something like Home Assistant, you can treat the device like a simple on/off and drive the device to only values of 0% or 100%.

gwbas1c 5y ago

I came across that a few years ago. I'm not sure why I didn't use it. I suspect it's because I wasn't sure if it'd work with the hub, or if it was pico-only. At least as far as controlling the outlet for holiday lighting: It is a 15-amp circuit, and I could easily anticipate plugging in a power-hungry tool at some time.

quickthrowman 5y ago
In that case, there’s also a 16A version! (16A is 80% of 20A) It’s only rated for up to 1/2 HP motors. If your 120v power tool is over ~10A, you’d want to have the power pack trigger a motor-rated line-voltage contactor, and that contactor would turn the power on and off. https://www.lutron.com/ExternalTechnicalDocumentLibrary/AL-16A-PP-specsheet.pdf https://www.lutron.com/ExternalTechnicalDocumentLibrary/AL-1...

criddell 5y ago

Do you know if they have a simple smart outlet? I want to use one with my Christmas tree lights because getting to the switch is difficult. I looked on Amazon and didn't see anything so I ended up ordering a cheap Refoss device that I have very low expectations for.

paisawalla 5y ago
Yes, Lutron has indoor and outdoor variants: https://www.casetawireless.com/products/smart-plugs https://www.casetawireless.com/products/smart-plugs
- criddell 5y ago
  The indoor version is a lamp dimmer. I just want a simple on/off outlet. The outdoor version is functionally close to what I want, but it’s big and ugly - something I don’t want inside. This seems like a hole in their lineup.
  - paisawalla 5y ago
    A dimmer is a superset, in functionality, of a binary switch. Using the Lutron app or something like Home Assistant, you can treat the device like a simple on/off and drive the device to only values of 0% or 100%.