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what? IPv6 has been supported by major telecomunication equipment manufacturers for nearly 2 and a half decades by now. It is just a matter of getting an inet6

what? IPv6 has been supported by major telecomunication equipment manufacturers for nearly 2 and a half decades by now. It is just a matter of getting an inet6 prefix from your RIR/LIR, and configuring it in your network. IPv6 is not hard nor is it difficult to implement, and its nitty gritty details are actually far more logically sound then IPv4. (ARP is a major paint point for instance in large networks, so is IP broadcast traffic). Most large WAN networks have a core which is either label switched (MPLS) and this doesn't care about anything in regards to the protocol which it is transporting, or is doing dual stack already.

austincheney 5y ago
How many residences are IPv6 first? How many countries prioritize IPv6 in their consumer electronics? My house is IPv6 first only because my ISP mandates such.
daper 5y ago
Generally agree, for basic configuration it just works. But I was planning to use IPv6 in some network segments in my company. Providing proper VPN (road warrior style) for employees to access such network isn't simple with IPv6 where every address is routable over internet. Morver Fortigate devices we have don't have such functionality.
nobody9999 5y ago
>It is just a matter of getting an inet6 prefix from your RIR/LIR, and configuring it in your network Which is easier said than done. Since my ISP won't provide me with IPv6, requesting a block from my RIR is my only option. However, I don't meet the requirements[0] for getting a block directly from an RIR (in my case, ARIN). In fact, unless you have a fairly large internet-facing presence, RIR's won't even give you the time of day: Have an IPv4 assignment from ARIN or one of its predecessors Intend to immediately be IPv6 multi-homed Have 13 end sites (offices, data centers, etc.) within one year Use 2,000 IPv6 addresses within one year Use 200 /64 subnets within one year [0] https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv6/first_request/#enduser https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv6/first_request/#end... Edit: Note that the requirements listed above are for end users not service providers.
- xxpor 5y ago
  Hard to blame ARIN there, They have about 70 people working for them, they're not scaled to deal with every tom dick and harry coming to them for assignments.
  - kazen44 5y ago
    which is why the LIR's exist. you can get provider independant IP space from a LIR.
    - nobody9999 5y ago
      >which is why the LIR's exist. >you can get provider independant IP space from a LIR. My understanding was that it was primarily ISPs that filled the role of LIRs. Is that incorrect? If so, how can I find an LIR in my area? Edit: I should have added that I've looked around, but AFAICT, the only "provider independent" group handing out IP addresses in my area is ARIN. I may be missing something obvious, but I don't think my google-fu is so bad that I can't find it, if it does indeed exist.
  - nobody9999 5y ago
    >Hard to blame ARIN there I wasn't blaming anyone. If that's the impression I gave, then I communicated poorly. Just expressing my frustration WRT the inability to get an IPv6 block for myself. It shouldn't be this hard.

austincheney 5y ago

How many residences are IPv6 first? How many countries prioritize IPv6 in their consumer electronics? My house is IPv6 first only because my ISP mandates such.

daper 5y ago

Generally agree, for basic configuration it just works. But I was planning to use IPv6 in some network segments in my company. Providing proper VPN (road warrior style) for employees to access such network isn't simple with IPv6 where every address is routable over internet. Morver Fortigate devices we have don't have such functionality.

nobody9999 5y ago

>It is just a matter of getting an inet6 prefix from your RIR/LIR, and configuring it in your network Which is easier said than done. Since my ISP won't provide me with IPv6, requesting a block from my RIR is my only option. However, I don't meet the requirements[0] for getting a block directly from an RIR (in my case, ARIN). In fact, unless you have a fairly large internet-facing presence, RIR's won't even give you the time of day: Have an IPv4 assignment from ARIN or one of its predecessors Intend to immediately be IPv6 multi-homed Have 13 end sites (offices, data centers, etc.) within one year Use 2,000 IPv6 addresses within one year Use 200 /64 subnets within one year [0] https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv6/first_request/#enduser https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv6/first_request/#end... Edit: Note that the requirements listed above are for end users not service providers.

xxpor 5y ago
Hard to blame ARIN there, They have about 70 people working for them, they're not scaled to deal with every tom dick and harry coming to them for assignments.
- kazen44 5y ago
  which is why the LIR's exist. you can get provider independant IP space from a LIR.
  - nobody9999 5y ago
    >which is why the LIR's exist. >you can get provider independant IP space from a LIR. My understanding was that it was primarily ISPs that filled the role of LIRs. Is that incorrect? If so, how can I find an LIR in my area? Edit: I should have added that I've looked around, but AFAICT, the only "provider independent" group handing out IP addresses in my area is ARIN. I may be missing something obvious, but I don't think my google-fu is so bad that I can't find it, if it does indeed exist.
- nobody9999 5y ago
  >Hard to blame ARIN there I wasn't blaming anyone. If that's the impression I gave, then I communicated poorly. Just expressing my frustration WRT the inability to get an IPv6 block for myself. It shouldn't be this hard.