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Open-source home cloud OS allows you to run Docker applications without coding

68 points by mcholen 5y ago

remisharrock 5y ago
I installed the alternative https://yunohost.org/ https://yunohost.org/ and I'm very happy with it, but now I want to try this one!
Havoc 5y ago
Oh wow - wasn't expecting to see this on HN. Icewhale is doing a custom dev board - zimaboard - and this is their sideproject as best as I can tell. Think they may have gotten bored halfway through waiting for chip shortage to go away.
sneak 5y ago
Self-host your own stuff! Join us on centralized, logged-forever, not-end-to-end-encrypted Discord to chat about it!
- cfjgvjh 5y ago
  I get what you're saying, but since Discord is often used for technical/community support, it probably is a low-friction way for people new to the homeserver stuff to get help and learn more. I know many of my normie friends would never use IRC, even if it was E2E encrypted and kept no logs.
  - pmontra 5y ago
    My experience with Discord is that I hate to search for past content on it. I had to do it a couple of times because Google / Stackoverflow didn't return anything but burying the solution to a problem in a chat doesn't look good. IRC had the same problem. For some reason Slack is a bit better at it, maybe because I only use Slack for customers' projects so I know what to expect.
    - cfjgvjh 5y ago
      Discord search is a terrible piece of shit, I agree. The real value is the realtime support offered. It should never be a knowledge storage, that's a job for a wiki.
- ssddanbrown 5y ago
  I do this for my open-source self-hosted project. The reality is that Discord provides a good experience, with good controls for a community, in a way that's friendly and easy to access for many. Additionally it saves me the hassle of hosting something. I don't see it that differently to using GitHub for hosting the code. In terms of privacy at least it's fairly clear to users, wanting to chat, that their data and content will be owned by discord. Users have the choice to enter the chat or not, it's not required to browse the website or use the software.
  - ranger_danger 5y ago
    github is not privacy-friendly either.
  - sneak 5y ago
    Anything web-based is easy to access for many. I wasn't suggesting IRC, just avoiding corporate spyware (the same reason we self-host). Using GitHub is also bad, for similar reasons, even leaving aside the fact that Microsoft provides services to those who operate concentration camps. Gitea, Mattermost, and Discourse (not Discord), all self-hosted, will serve your community better in the long run.
- agentdrtran 5y ago
  a decentralized, unlogged, e2ee chat system nobody uses is worse.
  - ori_b 5y ago
    Hence the suggestion to remedy the lack of use by using them.
- ranger_danger 5y ago
  also blindly install with curl | bash
- zaptheimpaler 5y ago
  Does chatting on a discord somehow push all your local cloud photos and files to the internet? No? Yeah, its not a big deal. Discord is by far the best chat tool today.
ocdtrekkie 5y ago
Always glad to see more entries in the "home server" space. I definitely wouldn't agree there aren't any out there already, but every new one opens up the practice to more people.
pengaru 5y ago
https://freedomboxfoundation.org/ https://freedomboxfoundation.org/
ClumsyPilot 5y ago
This is cool, but I've seen a few projects in similar theme, and it has not been obvious to someone who is new to self-hosting what are the pros and cons of this, trueNas, NextCloud, unraid, openmedia vault
- ronnier 5y ago
  Unraid is closed source. That’s fine, it’s an amazing product and I’m happy to pay for it. But they are increasingly adding cloud bits to it. Like a profile required to sign into when activating the product. More cloud features are on the way. I’m fine paying subscription fee. But I don’t want my home server cloud connected.
bellyfullofbac 5y ago
So... what exactly is it? Projects that have a lot of fluff but don't tell me what they offer irk me. Is it a NAS? Is it a Linux distro ("OS") that packages each app (whatever the hell apps for the "home scenario" mean) as a Docker container? Well I did find the answers under "Key features", it is a NAS and home automation, except those 2 things are under construction, meanwhile it seems they're focused on pretty UI and having apps as Docker containers. I'm becoming more of a curmudgeon, but masturbatory lines like "[...] team believes that through community-driven collaborative innovation and open communication with global developers, we can reshape the [...] experience like never before." and "Made with [heart emoji]" annoy me.
questiondev 5y ago
that looks really nice, might have to spin one up
butz 5y ago
Are there any measures that might prevent users from installing docker applications containing malware, e.g. mining scripts? It is very important to at least communicate risks to users in coding-less solutions.

68 points by mcholen 5y ago

I installed the alternative https://yunohost.org/ https://yunohost.org/ and I'm very happy with it, but now I want to try this one!

Havoc 5y ago

Oh wow - wasn't expecting to see this on HN. Icewhale is doing a custom dev board - zimaboard - and this is their sideproject as best as I can tell. Think they may have gotten bored halfway through waiting for chip shortage to go away.

sneak 5y ago

Self-host your own stuff! Join us on centralized, logged-forever, not-end-to-end-encrypted Discord to chat about it!

cfjgvjh 5y ago
I get what you're saying, but since Discord is often used for technical/community support, it probably is a low-friction way for people new to the homeserver stuff to get help and learn more. I know many of my normie friends would never use IRC, even if it was E2E encrypted and kept no logs.
- pmontra 5y ago
  My experience with Discord is that I hate to search for past content on it. I had to do it a couple of times because Google / Stackoverflow didn't return anything but burying the solution to a problem in a chat doesn't look good. IRC had the same problem. For some reason Slack is a bit better at it, maybe because I only use Slack for customers' projects so I know what to expect.
  - cfjgvjh 5y ago
    Discord search is a terrible piece of shit, I agree. The real value is the realtime support offered. It should never be a knowledge storage, that's a job for a wiki.
ssddanbrown 5y ago
I do this for my open-source self-hosted project. The reality is that Discord provides a good experience, with good controls for a community, in a way that's friendly and easy to access for many. Additionally it saves me the hassle of hosting something. I don't see it that differently to using GitHub for hosting the code. In terms of privacy at least it's fairly clear to users, wanting to chat, that their data and content will be owned by discord. Users have the choice to enter the chat or not, it's not required to browse the website or use the software.
- ranger_danger 5y ago
  github is not privacy-friendly either.
- sneak 5y ago
  Anything web-based is easy to access for many. I wasn't suggesting IRC, just avoiding corporate spyware (the same reason we self-host). Using GitHub is also bad, for similar reasons, even leaving aside the fact that Microsoft provides services to those who operate concentration camps. Gitea, Mattermost, and Discourse (not Discord), all self-hosted, will serve your community better in the long run.
agentdrtran 5y ago
a decentralized, unlogged, e2ee chat system nobody uses is worse.
- ori_b 5y ago
  Hence the suggestion to remedy the lack of use by using them.
ranger_danger 5y ago
also blindly install with curl | bash
zaptheimpaler 5y ago
Does chatting on a discord somehow push all your local cloud photos and files to the internet? No? Yeah, its not a big deal. Discord is by far the best chat tool today.

ocdtrekkie 5y ago

Always glad to see more entries in the "home server" space. I definitely wouldn't agree there aren't any out there already, but every new one opens up the practice to more people.

pengaru 5y ago

https://freedomboxfoundation.org/ https://freedomboxfoundation.org/

ClumsyPilot 5y ago

This is cool, but I've seen a few projects in similar theme, and it has not been obvious to someone who is new to self-hosting what are the pros and cons of this, trueNas, NextCloud, unraid, openmedia vault

ronnier 5y ago
Unraid is closed source. That’s fine, it’s an amazing product and I’m happy to pay for it. But they are increasingly adding cloud bits to it. Like a profile required to sign into when activating the product. More cloud features are on the way. I’m fine paying subscription fee. But I don’t want my home server cloud connected.

bellyfullofbac 5y ago

So... what exactly is it? Projects that have a lot of fluff but don't tell me what they offer irk me. Is it a NAS? Is it a Linux distro ("OS") that packages each app (whatever the hell apps for the "home scenario" mean) as a Docker container? Well I did find the answers under "Key features", it is a NAS and home automation, except those 2 things are under construction, meanwhile it seems they're focused on pretty UI and having apps as Docker containers. I'm becoming more of a curmudgeon, but masturbatory lines like "[...] team believes that through community-driven collaborative innovation and open communication with global developers, we can reshape the [...] experience like never before." and "Made with [heart emoji]" annoy me.

questiondev 5y ago

that looks really nice, might have to spin one up

butz 5y ago

Are there any measures that might prevent users from installing docker applications containing malware, e.g. mining scripts? It is very important to at least communicate risks to users in coding-less solutions.