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You can't learn things? I don't think "since 2007" is that long to be honest. I'm a bit confused how you can't be "good at ES6" in a way where you wouldn't stru

You can't learn things? I don't think "since 2007" is that long to be honest. I'm a bit confused how you can't be "good at ES6" in a way where you wouldn't struggle with gradual advancements in every other programming language. Maybe you just don't like frontend development, and would prefer backend, but I wouldn't say one is easier than the other. Backend development can go through churn and change and unreliability all the same. It has its own annoying problems to work through.

vaylian 5y ago
Don't be mean. It is perfectly normal to be overwhelmed by missing knowledge, if there is no clear learning path that lets you understand things one-by-one. There are knowledge-dependencies between different technologies.
dusted 5y ago
at some point, one becomes exhausted from learning things that are so short lived that they're effectively useless the next year. There's a fatigue in knowing that what you're working hard to master today will be laughed at tomorrow, it makes you cynical, or at least tired.. It's not like that with most things in the world, learn math, the new stuff will only gradually creep in, the foundational concepts and ideas don't shift overnight. Even medicine, with constant advantages are not replacing huge amounts of ideas every year, only adjusting and adding some. Learn C, and you're good to go for the next 200 years. Learn JavaScript, probably too. Learn React or Angular or whatever, and you'll have, if you're lucky the next two years to polish and make use of that knowledge before it goes out.. Don't get me wrong, advancement is good, but most of the frontend stuff we see coming and going is just grind, not advancement.
- schwartzworld 5y ago
  > Learn React or Angular or whatever, and you'll have, if you're lucky the next two years to polish and make use of that knowledge before it goes out.. This is just a meme. React and angular aren't going anywhere. Especially React is too big to disappear. Even if it falls out of fashion, there would be 1000s of apps built in it that need maintenance. Whatever DOES end up replacing React is going to share more with it than not. Data-driven UIs that are a pure function of their state ain't going out of style.
  - dusted 5y ago
    well, I didn't read it anywhere, just my personal experience from being in the industry, so if it's a meme, it's probably not without a reason. Also, I've personally suffered through multiple frameworks, anything I've learnt have been a waste of time, I have nothing to show for it, but some applications with outdated UIs, you're welcome to blame me for "chosing the wrong ones, just tell me a modern, currently popular UI framework that's existed for more than 10 years.

vaylian 5y ago

Don't be mean. It is perfectly normal to be overwhelmed by missing knowledge, if there is no clear learning path that lets you understand things one-by-one. There are knowledge-dependencies between different technologies.

dusted 5y ago

at some point, one becomes exhausted from learning things that are so short lived that they're effectively useless the next year. There's a fatigue in knowing that what you're working hard to master today will be laughed at tomorrow, it makes you cynical, or at least tired.. It's not like that with most things in the world, learn math, the new stuff will only gradually creep in, the foundational concepts and ideas don't shift overnight. Even medicine, with constant advantages are not replacing huge amounts of ideas every year, only adjusting and adding some. Learn C, and you're good to go for the next 200 years. Learn JavaScript, probably too. Learn React or Angular or whatever, and you'll have, if you're lucky the next two years to polish and make use of that knowledge before it goes out.. Don't get me wrong, advancement is good, but most of the frontend stuff we see coming and going is just grind, not advancement.

schwartzworld 5y ago
> Learn React or Angular or whatever, and you'll have, if you're lucky the next two years to polish and make use of that knowledge before it goes out.. This is just a meme. React and angular aren't going anywhere. Especially React is too big to disappear. Even if it falls out of fashion, there would be 1000s of apps built in it that need maintenance. Whatever DOES end up replacing React is going to share more with it than not. Data-driven UIs that are a pure function of their state ain't going out of style.
- dusted 5y ago
  well, I didn't read it anywhere, just my personal experience from being in the industry, so if it's a meme, it's probably not without a reason. Also, I've personally suffered through multiple frameworks, anything I've learnt have been a waste of time, I have nothing to show for it, but some applications with outdated UIs, you're welcome to blame me for "chosing the wrong ones, just tell me a modern, currently popular UI framework that's existed for more than 10 years.