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The wired article was extremely short not sure if I’m just not getting the full article? It seems from my perspective that Taylor and McDonald’s conspired to ta

by 14 5y ago

The wired article was extremely short not sure if I’m just not getting the full article? It seems from my perspective that Taylor and McDonald’s conspired to take money from the franchise owners. What a shame. Because all it does is incentives owners to cut corners like say serve cold fries so they don’t lose money. McDonald’s used to be great but somewhere lost the way. They used to be the affordable place anyone could afford a couple burgers and fries for their family and it used to be quite enjoyable.

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EdwardDiego 5y ago
What I'm enjoying is their randomly changing offers post-lockdowns in my country, and how they don't communicate them at all. Their "gourmet" burgers are now only available from 10:30am to 10:30pm, even in 24 hour joints. Their "all day breakfast" they spent a lot of money advertising now ends at midday. This was notably not advertised. When I rocked up at 12:15pm looking for my regular Sunday McMuffin, and was informed of the new policy, I kinda understood that famous scene in Falling Down[1]. They have vanilla shakes! Sometimes, maybe. Plenty of the other shakes, but vanilla is hit and miss. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlzm7-gvTRg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlzm7-gvTRg
- jacquesm 5y ago
  That is an awesome movie, if a bit depressing. "I'm the bad guy?"
- progre 5y ago
  Must have watched that move close to 30 times. I wish my kids will someday watch it, they will have a Keyser Soze moment when they realize how much of our daily coversation is made up of quotes from Falling Down.
  - dotancohen 5y ago
    I suppose that's better than the Rocky Horror Picture Show quotes mine have been hearing... and I hope that they never find out. The Monty Python and Pulp Fiction quotes, though... Yes I hope that they figure those out some day!
jacquesm 5y ago
> McDonald’s used to be great When was this?
- 14 5y ago
  I’m from the 80’s. First they used to actually use beef tallow up until the 90s when they switched to vegetable oil. Major decline in taste and texture. Fries used to stay crispy longer and the flavour was much more rich. Also you used to be able to get a cheese burger for like $0.60. It used to be affordable but at some point the prices skyrocketed and they got their new menu items which mostly sucked. They used to have pizza and I’ve seen a lot of people wish for that back. It seems to me like they wanted to portray themselves as a high end burger joint and start charging as much like you would see at a restaurant. What made them famous was cheap food. They should have kept that as a focus imo.
  - mdorazio 5y ago
    Prices never skyrocketed, you just got older and aren’t considering inflation. 60 cents in 1985 is about 1.50 today, but a cheeseburger only costs a dollar now. In many cases fast food prices in general got cheaper over time due to efficiencies and cheaper ingredients.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    I've never seen them provide value for money here in Europe compared to what was already available. What boosted them - and killed a lot of the local competition - was that tourists seemed to prefer them. We had plenty of fast food here that was quite ok before then.
    - DonHopkins 5y ago
      FEBO!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEBO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEBO Eating from the wall is like late night window shopping in Amsterdam's culinary red light district. https://uncloggedblog.com/2013/12/10/five-ways-to-see-amsterdam-or-any-other-city-like-a-local/ https://uncloggedblog.com/2013/12/10/five-ways-to-see-amster... >Window-shopping for fast food at FEBO. >If you must, eat from the wall at FEBO, an inexplicably popular Dutch tradition that satisfies appetites 24/7 with automated fast food displayed in tiny windows. No telling how long those mayo-slathered frikandel and burgers have been sitting there under heat lamps, but if you’re starving in the wee hours, they may be your only snack option.
hoppyhoppy2 5y ago
A previous Wired story has the full context; the one posted today is more of an update. https://www.wired.com/story/they-hacked-mcdonalds-ice-cream-makers-started-cold-war/ https://www.wired.com/story/they-hacked-mcdonalds-ice-cream-... (or https://archive.is/newest/https://www.wired.com/story/they-hacked-mcdonalds-ice-cream-makers-started-cold-war/ https://archive.is/newest/https://www.wired.com/story/they-h... )

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EdwardDiego 5y ago

What I'm enjoying is their randomly changing offers post-lockdowns in my country, and how they don't communicate them at all. Their "gourmet" burgers are now only available from 10:30am to 10:30pm, even in 24 hour joints. Their "all day breakfast" they spent a lot of money advertising now ends at midday. This was notably not advertised. When I rocked up at 12:15pm looking for my regular Sunday McMuffin, and was informed of the new policy, I kinda understood that famous scene in Falling Down[1]. They have vanilla shakes! Sometimes, maybe. Plenty of the other shakes, but vanilla is hit and miss. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlzm7-gvTRg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlzm7-gvTRg

jacquesm 5y ago
That is an awesome movie, if a bit depressing. "I'm the bad guy?"
progre 5y ago
Must have watched that move close to 30 times. I wish my kids will someday watch it, they will have a Keyser Soze moment when they realize how much of our daily coversation is made up of quotes from Falling Down.
- dotancohen 5y ago
  I suppose that's better than the Rocky Horror Picture Show quotes mine have been hearing... and I hope that they never find out. The Monty Python and Pulp Fiction quotes, though... Yes I hope that they figure those out some day!

jacquesm 5y ago

> McDonald’s used to be great When was this?

14 5y ago
I’m from the 80’s. First they used to actually use beef tallow up until the 90s when they switched to vegetable oil. Major decline in taste and texture. Fries used to stay crispy longer and the flavour was much more rich. Also you used to be able to get a cheese burger for like $0.60. It used to be affordable but at some point the prices skyrocketed and they got their new menu items which mostly sucked. They used to have pizza and I’ve seen a lot of people wish for that back. It seems to me like they wanted to portray themselves as a high end burger joint and start charging as much like you would see at a restaurant. What made them famous was cheap food. They should have kept that as a focus imo.
- mdorazio 5y ago
  Prices never skyrocketed, you just got older and aren’t considering inflation. 60 cents in 1985 is about 1.50 today, but a cheeseburger only costs a dollar now. In many cases fast food prices in general got cheaper over time due to efficiencies and cheaper ingredients.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  I've never seen them provide value for money here in Europe compared to what was already available. What boosted them - and killed a lot of the local competition - was that tourists seemed to prefer them. We had plenty of fast food here that was quite ok before then.
  - DonHopkins 5y ago
    FEBO!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEBO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEBO Eating from the wall is like late night window shopping in Amsterdam's culinary red light district. https://uncloggedblog.com/2013/12/10/five-ways-to-see-amsterdam-or-any-other-city-like-a-local/ https://uncloggedblog.com/2013/12/10/five-ways-to-see-amster... >Window-shopping for fast food at FEBO. >If you must, eat from the wall at FEBO, an inexplicably popular Dutch tradition that satisfies appetites 24/7 with automated fast food displayed in tiny windows. No telling how long those mayo-slathered frikandel and burgers have been sitting there under heat lamps, but if you’re starving in the wee hours, they may be your only snack option.

hoppyhoppy2 5y ago

A previous Wired story has the full context; the one posted today is more of an update. https://www.wired.com/story/they-hacked-mcdonalds-ice-cream-makers-started-cold-war/ https://www.wired.com/story/they-hacked-mcdonalds-ice-cream-... (or https://archive.is/newest/https://www.wired.com/story/they-hacked-mcdonalds-ice-cream-makers-started-cold-war/ https://archive.is/newest/https://www.wired.com/story/they-h... )