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If racism is actually causing blacks and Hispanics to not make it into advanced classes then why are Asians making it in?

anm89 5y ago
They are clearly excelling at math just to be racist. Also my brother's Chinese wife is on faculty at an Ivy League school and she was explicitly informed that when discussing diversity issues, she is white. The mind boggles
threatofrain 5y ago
The very long multi-part document on white supremacy in mathematics does not mention Asians even once, despite that they are somewhere between 15.5% to 17% of the state population.
akomtu 5y ago
US admits only the top 1% of Asians with its immigration policies. Same for most other countries. If average rural Chinese folks could immigrate to US, we'd see a more "equitable" picture.
- Jensson 5y ago
  Then why would California school discriminate against Asians in admissions? Wasn't the point of affirmative action to counteract discrimination, but now it seems like it just makes the discrimination Asians already face even worse? If institutions openly discriminating against you is not "institutional racism" then I don't know what is.
- barry-cotter 5y ago
  The Asian advantage in education long pre-dates selectivity in immigration. You see the same pattern in the children of Asian peasants. See every generatio of Asian immigrants to the US since teh California Gold Rush.
dragonwriter 5y ago
> If racism is actually causing blacks and Hispanics to not make it into advanced classes then why are Asians making it in? Because immigration policy and conditions highly selects Asians for educational achievement. Hispanic immigrants are basically selected inversely, whereas blacks are overwhelmingly not immigrants or early-generation Americans. https://items.ssrc.org/from-our-programs/it-takes-more-than-grit-reframing-asian-american-academic-achievement/ https://items.ssrc.org/from-our-programs/it-takes-more-than-...
- _-david-_ 5y ago
  Asians in the past who came over 100 years ago and have lived in the US did not have selective immigration rules based on education. Their prodigy are doing better than blacks who have also lived here for generations. Some Asians were even put in concentration camps 80 years ago and were heavily discriminated against. I understand the argument about Hispanics since many are new immigrants though.

anm89 5y ago

They are clearly excelling at math just to be racist. Also my brother's Chinese wife is on faculty at an Ivy League school and she was explicitly informed that when discussing diversity issues, she is white. The mind boggles

threatofrain 5y ago

The very long multi-part document on white supremacy in mathematics does not mention Asians even once, despite that they are somewhere between 15.5% to 17% of the state population.

akomtu 5y ago

US admits only the top 1% of Asians with its immigration policies. Same for most other countries. If average rural Chinese folks could immigrate to US, we'd see a more "equitable" picture.

Jensson 5y ago
Then why would California school discriminate against Asians in admissions? Wasn't the point of affirmative action to counteract discrimination, but now it seems like it just makes the discrimination Asians already face even worse? If institutions openly discriminating against you is not "institutional racism" then I don't know what is.
barry-cotter 5y ago
The Asian advantage in education long pre-dates selectivity in immigration. You see the same pattern in the children of Asian peasants. See every generatio of Asian immigrants to the US since teh California Gold Rush.

dragonwriter 5y ago

> If racism is actually causing blacks and Hispanics to not make it into advanced classes then why are Asians making it in? Because immigration policy and conditions highly selects Asians for educational achievement. Hispanic immigrants are basically selected inversely, whereas blacks are overwhelmingly not immigrants or early-generation Americans. https://items.ssrc.org/from-our-programs/it-takes-more-than-grit-reframing-asian-american-academic-achievement/ https://items.ssrc.org/from-our-programs/it-takes-more-than-...

_-david-_ 5y ago
Asians in the past who came over 100 years ago and have lived in the US did not have selective immigration rules based on education. Their prodigy are doing better than blacks who have also lived here for generations. Some Asians were even put in concentration camps 80 years ago and were heavily discriminated against. I understand the argument about Hispanics since many are new immigrants though.