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I noticed that they're only evaluating the covid-19 death rate. Not the overall death rate. Based on the latest data from England's ONS, in the 10 to 59 year ol

I noticed that they're only evaluating the covid-19 death rate. Not the overall death rate. Based on the latest data from England's ONS, in the 10 to 59 year old category, the vaccinated overall death rate is almost twice as high as the unvaccinated death rate

bob_neumann 5y ago
Https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/dataset/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland
- MaurizioPz 5y ago
  thanks, but the link doesn't work
  - MaurizioPz 5y ago
    I found this the data going here https://www.ons.gov.uk/redir/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpbmRleCI6MSwicGFnZVNpemUiOjEwLCJ0ZXJtIjoidmFjIiwicGFnZSI6MSwidXJpIjoiL3Blb3BsZXBvcHVsYXRpb25hbmRjb21tdW5pdHkvYmlydGhzZGVhdGhzYW5kbWFycmlhZ2VzL2RlYXRocy9kYXRhc2V0cy9kZWF0aHNieXZhY2NpbmF0aW9uc3RhdHVzZW5nbGFuZCIsImxpc3RUeXBlIjoiZGF0YWxpc3QifQ.t5114mR30PxrY2zUD-HVQKTJZ1B6OxGC_SRN6S77bU0 https://www.ons.gov.uk/redir/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpbmRleC... but it goes up to the end of september and the rate of the unvaccinated is higher than that of the vaccinated
- pfg 5y ago
  I'm assuming this should be https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde.... Can you be more specific with your claim? The age-standardised mortality rate appears to be significantly higher for the unvaccinated population according to your source. // edit: Sorry, I missed the part where you were talking about a specific age group. This can be explained by [1]. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29323980 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29323980
MaurizioPz 5y ago
Sorry but I can't find a source for this statistic. Could you provide me a pointer to it?
moistly 5y ago
If your claim is true, the UK’s health authorities are deliberately ignoring this vital fact and have effectively engaged in manslaughter. That seems rather unlikely to me.

bob_neumann 5y ago

Https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/dataset/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland

MaurizioPz 5y ago
thanks, but the link doesn't work
- MaurizioPz 5y ago
  I found this the data going here https://www.ons.gov.uk/redir/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpbmRleCI6MSwicGFnZVNpemUiOjEwLCJ0ZXJtIjoidmFjIiwicGFnZSI6MSwidXJpIjoiL3Blb3BsZXBvcHVsYXRpb25hbmRjb21tdW5pdHkvYmlydGhzZGVhdGhzYW5kbWFycmlhZ2VzL2RlYXRocy9kYXRhc2V0cy9kZWF0aHNieXZhY2NpbmF0aW9uc3RhdHVzZW5nbGFuZCIsImxpc3RUeXBlIjoiZGF0YWxpc3QifQ.t5114mR30PxrY2zUD-HVQKTJZ1B6OxGC_SRN6S77bU0 https://www.ons.gov.uk/redir/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpbmRleC... but it goes up to the end of september and the rate of the unvaccinated is higher than that of the vaccinated
pfg 5y ago
I'm assuming this should be https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde.... Can you be more specific with your claim? The age-standardised mortality rate appears to be significantly higher for the unvaccinated population according to your source. // edit: Sorry, I missed the part where you were talking about a specific age group. This can be explained by [1]. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29323980 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29323980

MaurizioPz 5y ago

Sorry but I can't find a source for this statistic. Could you provide me a pointer to it?

moistly 5y ago

If your claim is true, the UK’s health authorities are deliberately ignoring this vital fact and have effectively engaged in manslaughter. That seems rather unlikely to me.