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Mullvad: I know it for a fact, because I'm one of the founders. IVPN: I don't know it, but I've met Nick Pestell (the founder) several times, and he's told me

by kfreds 5y ago

Mullvad: I know it for a fact, because I'm one of the founders. IVPN: I don't know it, but I've met Nick Pestell (the founder) several times, and he's told me they don't pay for reviews. I trust him.

elliekelly 5y ago
I hope you enjoy the random cards of cash I send every month! I quite enjoy your product!
is_true 5y ago
I have an abandoned tech blog and I usually get asked by marketing firms to include links in old articles as part of SEO services they have.
mox1 5y ago
Ahh, this is why one must be careful when responding to seemingly random people on hacker news, there's a pretty good chance the CEO, head researcher , worlds fore-most expert on the topic, etc. is actually here reading the article. :)
- kfreds 5y ago
  To be fair I think is_true's question is excellent. If anything I should have clarified where I was coming from in my first post. Ultimately I opted for keeping it shorter. I agree though, it is a real joy to lurk a HN thread on J. Random topic and be treated to high-signal conversations. :)
ksec 5y ago
>Mullvad: I know it for a fact, because I'm one of the founders. I cant stop laughing :) Forgive me if I have asked this before. Have you ever considered a Pay as you Go model with minimum top up fees? $50 for 50GB with no expiry you can use it for life? Or is that model that generally dont work because it seems all PAYG VPN services go bust.
- kfreds 5y ago
  > Forgive me if I have asked this before. Have you ever considered a Pay as you Go model with minimum top up fees? $50 for 50GB with no expiry you can use it for life? Yes, but I can't recall the reasons we discarded the idea. Something like this perhaps: In general I like the idea of VPN as a utility - anonymous internet on tap. Utility-like services in functioning markets compete on price to the benefit of the consumer. On the other hand, things that look like one-dimensional utilities to the consumer isn't always. A service category where there's plenty of innovation potential left shouldn't pretend to be a utility. Especially players who aim to improve state-of-the-art. A pay-as-you-go model encourages consumers to compare quantities of something that is quite disconnected from the quality of what they get. Paying per month makes more sense to me for another reason as well - It's similar to what we do with our suppliers.
  - ksec 5y ago
    > A pay-as-you-go model encourages consumers to compare quantities of something that is quite disconnected from the quality of what they get. Thanks, that make sense. The reason I asked is because I only need a VPN once every few months for 10-20 min. Currently I am basically setting up my own VPN Server every time I need one. It is just quite a bit of hassle.

by kfreds 5y ago

Mullvad: I know it for a fact, because I'm one of the founders. IVPN: I don't know it, but I've met Nick Pestell (the founder) several times, and he's told me they don't pay for reviews. I trust him.

elliekelly 5y ago

I hope you enjoy the random cards of cash I send every month! I quite enjoy your product!

is_true 5y ago

I have an abandoned tech blog and I usually get asked by marketing firms to include links in old articles as part of SEO services they have.

mox1 5y ago

Ahh, this is why one must be careful when responding to seemingly random people on hacker news, there's a pretty good chance the CEO, head researcher , worlds fore-most expert on the topic, etc. is actually here reading the article. :)

kfreds 5y ago
To be fair I think is_true's question is excellent. If anything I should have clarified where I was coming from in my first post. Ultimately I opted for keeping it shorter. I agree though, it is a real joy to lurk a HN thread on J. Random topic and be treated to high-signal conversations. :)

ksec 5y ago

>Mullvad: I know it for a fact, because I'm one of the founders. I cant stop laughing :) Forgive me if I have asked this before. Have you ever considered a Pay as you Go model with minimum top up fees? $50 for 50GB with no expiry you can use it for life? Or is that model that generally dont work because it seems all PAYG VPN services go bust.

kfreds 5y ago
> Forgive me if I have asked this before. Have you ever considered a Pay as you Go model with minimum top up fees? $50 for 50GB with no expiry you can use it for life? Yes, but I can't recall the reasons we discarded the idea. Something like this perhaps: In general I like the idea of VPN as a utility - anonymous internet on tap. Utility-like services in functioning markets compete on price to the benefit of the consumer. On the other hand, things that look like one-dimensional utilities to the consumer isn't always. A service category where there's plenty of innovation potential left shouldn't pretend to be a utility. Especially players who aim to improve state-of-the-art. A pay-as-you-go model encourages consumers to compare quantities of something that is quite disconnected from the quality of what they get. Paying per month makes more sense to me for another reason as well - It's similar to what we do with our suppliers.
- ksec 5y ago
  > A pay-as-you-go model encourages consumers to compare quantities of something that is quite disconnected from the quality of what they get. Thanks, that make sense. The reason I asked is because I only need a VPN once every few months for 10-20 min. Currently I am basically setting up my own VPN Server every time I need one. It is just quite a bit of hassle.