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I disagree with this post. Jobs is still Chairman of the Board. I imagine decisions regarding "taste" will still run through Jobs. Ive is likely to have an inc

I disagree with this post. Jobs is still Chairman of the Board. I imagine decisions regarding "taste" will still run through Jobs. Ive is likely to have an increased role as well. Tim Cook does not have to take over all of the roles that Steve Jobs had in order to be successful. He just needs to execute on Job's vision, and other top executives like Forstall and Ive will step in to take over some of Steve's day to day.

kalleboo 15y ago
I think most people are taking on this debate with the ghoulish yet all-to-possible assumption that Jobs is not going to be with us for much longer.
- pstuart 15y ago
  That's rather sanctimonious. edit below: ghoulish: 1. strangely diabolical or cruel; monstrous: a ghoulish and questionable sense of humor. 2. showing fascination with death, disease, maiming, etc.; morbid: ghoulish curiosity. 3. of, pertaining to, or like a ghoul or ghouls. sanctimonious: Making a show of being morally superior to other people. Steve is Apple. He created it, he saved it from death. There's only one logical reason why he would step down and people are mentioning that. It's too bad that your sensibilities are offended.
- talicni_tom 15y ago
  http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/26/steve-jobs-apple-photo-resignation-ceo-sick/#.TllQFl1ghJE http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/26/steve-jobs-apple-photo-resigna... TMZ got a recent photo of him, take a look. I'm not a doctor but he doesn't look good.
  - Udo 15y ago
    If you know anything about pancreatic cancer and the other glimpses of Jobs' medical history, you don't need tasteless photos to figure out what is going on. People keep saying stuff like "get better Steve", which is a nice sentiment but at some point it's not appropriate anymore to talk about a terminally ill person that way. This guy has already survived a very long time with an illness that kills most people within months. He has now chosen to take a bow and exit the stage gracefully, a decision that I'm sure was made as late as possible. I'm certain that resignation letter has been sitting in a drawer at his lawyer's office for quite some time. The truth is this man will be dead within the next few weeks, let's give him the privacy to go out with decency. Paparazzi shots and discussions about how "not good" he looks are completely unnecessary. As far as this thread's topic is concerned, the question boils down to the point of whether Apple can thrive on execution alone. We'll see. Ideally, Ive will reconsider scaling back his role as a creative lead. I think together with Schiller's enthusiasm and Cook's organizational talent, there is no reason why Apple shouldn't continue to put out great innovation. But even if they do enter a creative slump, they have a lot of momentum and cash to carry them over any dry spell that might happen.
    - angstrom 15y ago
      An overflowing warchest is probably one of the most dangerous enablers of complacency. Screw ups and missed targets get glossed over as "There's money to cover it." Eventually, it becomes business as usual.
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  - onedognight 15y ago
    > I'm not a doctor but he doesn't look good. I'm not forensic analyst, but that photo is clearly 'shopped.
    - cpeterso 15y ago
      Yes. I've never seen Steve wear a black kilt before. (He's always worn denim kilts.)
hmottestad 15y ago
I believe the blog post isn't really about a temporary solution, it's about what happens when Jobs can't (or won't) fulfill the role of product scrapper: "But it’s about fulfilling Jobs’ dreams, not forging new ones. He [Cook] can continue to run the company while Jobs is away because he’s continuing to ensure the execution of designs that Jobs has already approved. But Apple can’t run indefinitely on old plans. The only reason it works for Cook to be in charge while Steve is away is because Steve is still around, doing ruthless critiques of yet-to-be-invented products from his sickbed."

kalleboo 15y ago

I think most people are taking on this debate with the ghoulish yet all-to-possible assumption that Jobs is not going to be with us for much longer.

pstuart 15y ago
That's rather sanctimonious. edit below: ghoulish: 1. strangely diabolical or cruel; monstrous: a ghoulish and questionable sense of humor. 2. showing fascination with death, disease, maiming, etc.; morbid: ghoulish curiosity. 3. of, pertaining to, or like a ghoul or ghouls. sanctimonious: Making a show of being morally superior to other people. Steve is Apple. He created it, he saved it from death. There's only one logical reason why he would step down and people are mentioning that. It's too bad that your sensibilities are offended.
talicni_tom 15y ago
http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/26/steve-jobs-apple-photo-resignation-ceo-sick/#.TllQFl1ghJE http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/26/steve-jobs-apple-photo-resigna... TMZ got a recent photo of him, take a look. I'm not a doctor but he doesn't look good.
- Udo 15y ago
  If you know anything about pancreatic cancer and the other glimpses of Jobs' medical history, you don't need tasteless photos to figure out what is going on. People keep saying stuff like "get better Steve", which is a nice sentiment but at some point it's not appropriate anymore to talk about a terminally ill person that way. This guy has already survived a very long time with an illness that kills most people within months. He has now chosen to take a bow and exit the stage gracefully, a decision that I'm sure was made as late as possible. I'm certain that resignation letter has been sitting in a drawer at his lawyer's office for quite some time. The truth is this man will be dead within the next few weeks, let's give him the privacy to go out with decency. Paparazzi shots and discussions about how "not good" he looks are completely unnecessary. As far as this thread's topic is concerned, the question boils down to the point of whether Apple can thrive on execution alone. We'll see. Ideally, Ive will reconsider scaling back his role as a creative lead. I think together with Schiller's enthusiasm and Cook's organizational talent, there is no reason why Apple shouldn't continue to put out great innovation. But even if they do enter a creative slump, they have a lot of momentum and cash to carry them over any dry spell that might happen.
  - angstrom 15y ago
    An overflowing warchest is probably one of the most dangerous enablers of complacency. Screw ups and missed targets get glossed over as "There's money to cover it." Eventually, it becomes business as usual.
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- onedognight 15y ago
  > I'm not a doctor but he doesn't look good. I'm not forensic analyst, but that photo is clearly 'shopped.
  - cpeterso 15y ago
    Yes. I've never seen Steve wear a black kilt before. (He's always worn denim kilts.)

hmottestad 15y ago

I believe the blog post isn't really about a temporary solution, it's about what happens when Jobs can't (or won't) fulfill the role of product scrapper: "But it’s about fulfilling Jobs’ dreams, not forging new ones. He [Cook] can continue to run the company while Jobs is away because he’s continuing to ensure the execution of designs that Jobs has already approved. But Apple can’t run indefinitely on old plans. The only reason it works for Cook to be in charge while Steve is away is because Steve is still around, doing ruthless critiques of yet-to-be-invented products from his sickbed."