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I Live in Arkansas. Why Is My State Telling Me Not to Boycott Israel?

63 points by prawn 5y ago

yeetaccount2 5y ago
“ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.
yeetaccount2 5y ago
Apparently being against infant penis suckers is against HN guidelines.flagged. Hahahahahahah.
sndman 5y ago
The author of the opinion piece (Alan Leveritt) is the subject (among others) of a good documentary BOYCOTT by Julia Bacha (not clear how to watch this). Panel discussion and Q&A for the doc is on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26HFbKoA7SU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26HFbKoA7SU
version_five 5y ago
The headline could be clearer. This is about a newspaper being told by a state sponsored advertiser that they must "pledge" not to boycott Israel. It's much more specific than the current headline, which is confusing. Specifically "telling" - like an ad campaign or something is not an infringement of rights vs. "compelling" - which is my read of what is happening in the article.
threwaweigh1911 5y ago
Honestly, the obsession with these types of tropes are getting old. The world goes on, exemplary individuals shine and legislation gets passed, where are the narratives going to be when even questioning something so blatanly apparent is even a question worth asking?
loudtieblahblah 5y ago
[flagged]
chromaton 5y ago
If you do ITAR work, there are also federal-level reporting regulations regarding boycotting Israel.
- 1cvmask 5y ago
  What do you mean? As in you should or you can't boycott? ITAR is something I have almost no knowledge on.
glial 5y ago
I grew up in Arkansas. I love the Arkansas Times and have fond memories reading it in coffee shops as a teenager and college student. Advertisers advertise with whomever they wish, but I'm having a hard time understanding how laws that mandate a political position - any political position - aren't clear violations of the first amendment.
bobthechef 5y ago
The neocons, who have ties to the Israel lobby, have been running the Republican party for some time, so this is not surprising.
- yeetaccount2 5y ago
  If you skimmed the article it involves top level dems, too. Disclaimer: I hate statists that dabble in religion. Send them to double-barrel buckshot hell.
- bo1024 5y ago
  The article discusses similar executive orders and laws originating from Democrats as well (New York and California)...
  - smegsicle 5y ago
    That's not surprising either, since they also have ties.
- hourislate 5y ago
  Israel runs both parties...Just look at the Biden Cabinet.
  - adultSwim 5y ago
    You have it backwards. Israel is a US client state. "If there were not an Israel, we would have to invent one to make sure our interests were preserved" Joe Biden, 2013
Iefthandrule 5y ago
> There is going to be certain things that happen in Israel before Christ returns. There will be famines and disease and war. And the Jewish people are going to go back to their homeland. At that point Jesus Christ will come back to the earth.” He added, “Anybody, Jewish or not Jewish, that doesn’t accept Christ, in my opinion, will end up going to hell.” It is clear why America is mocked on the national stage.
- oh_sigh 5y ago
  Because people don't understand that individuals do not represent the whole? Do you make these points just about Americans, or do you use the same logic for other demographic information? If you see a black man rob a store, do you say "and this is why racist whites hate black people" as if it is somehow a pat on the back for the stereotyping group?
  - bestcoder69 5y ago
    State senators do represent a whole bunch of individuals though. In fact you gotta get a whole bunch of individuals together to agree to elect one!
- dudul 5y ago
  First of you probably meant on the "international stage". Second, America doesn't care about your xenophobia.
- wmil 5y ago
  The people making the movie “Boycott” got a state senator to say that, but it's not what's driving the debate.
- ykevinator2 5y ago
  you sound like a heavens gate member. supernatural is not real and i hope you sober up and face the reality that conception cannot occur without sperm and no one has ever risen from the dead.
- jl2718 5y ago
yeetaccount2 5y ago
Yeah Israel sucks ass. But the alternative is Muslim zealots consolidating a lot more power in the region. Glass it TBH. P.U. let’s get some Pu.
trothamel 5y ago
While probably not related, this is weirdly similar to Executive Order 14042, which was the one produced by the current administration to mandate covid vaccinations among federal contractors and subcontractors. It's even down to the point where both seem to regulate not doing something.
qwertyuiop_ 5y ago
@ Dang can we flag this ? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.
- jl2718 5y ago
  It seems to me like a candid factual account of something that is both surprising and unknown to most people.
yeetaccount2 5y ago
Jesus I just had a comment that got banned in like 5 minutes. I don’t hate Jews or Muslims or anything, wtf. Here’s a quote: > Yeah Israel sucks ass. But the alternative is Muslim zealots consolidating a lot more power in the region. Glass it TBH. P.U. let’s get some Pu. Are Muslim zealots desirable? Are Jew zealots desirable? They all suck and my life is better without them both. I don’t hate btw. E:about to get flagged…
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yeetaccount2 5y ago
AHAHAHA you bitches got me on refresh.
yeetaccount2 5y ago
Oh god, I got flagged twice on this post. I’m drunk af btw poking at the mod system > Jesus I just had a comment that got banned in like 5 minutes. I don’t hate Jews or Muslims or anything, wtf. Here’s a quote: >> Yeah Israel sucks ass. But the alternative is Muslim zealots consolidating a lot more power in the region. Glass it TBH. P.U. let’s get some Pu. >Are Muslim zealots desirable? Are Jew zealots desirable? They all suck and my life is better without them both. I don’t hate btw. E:about to get flagged…
yeetaccount2 5y ago
The insanity continues… >Oh god, I got flagged twice on this post. I’m drunk af btw poking at the mod system >> Jesus I just had a comment that got banned in like 5 minutes. I don’t hate Jews or Muslims or anything, wtf. Here’s a quote: >>> Yeah Israel sucks ass. But the alternative is Muslim zealots consolidating a lot more power in the region. Glass it TBH. P.U. let’s get some Pu. >>Are Muslim zealots desirable? Are Jew zealots desirable? They all suck and my life is better without them both. I don’t hate btw. E:about to get flagged…
yeetaccount2 5y ago
Oh my non extant god this whole post is flagged because a religious group has such a sore asshole after sucking circumcised infant penises > The insanity continues… >>Oh god, I got flagged twice on this post. I’m drunk af btw poking at the mod system >>> Jesus I just had a comment that got banned in like 5 minutes. I don’t hate Jews or Muslims or anything, wtf. Here’s a quote: >>>> Yeah Israel sucks ass. But the alternative is Muslim zealots consolidating a lot more power in the region. Glass it TBH. P.U. let’s get some Pu. >>>Are Muslim zealots desirable? Are Jew zealots desirable? They all suck and my life is better without them both. I don’t hate btw. E:about to get flagged…
yeetaccount2 5y ago
Jews got butthurt and abused the mod system. HN sucks freshly circumcised infant penis. Just like a Rabbi.
yeetaccount2 5y ago
This post getting flagged shows just how insecure the pro Israel crowd is.
yeetaccount2 5y ago
Flagged before I post.
int_19h 5y ago
Ironically, the heavy-handed attempts to censor and suppress BDS is what ultimately led me to support them.
yeetaccount2 5y ago
Free Palestine.
yeetaccount2 5y ago
“Free Palestine” gets flagged.
yeetaccount2 5y ago
““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.
yeetaccount2 5y ago
““ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.” Gets flagged
yeetaccount2 5y ago
“ ““ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.” Gets flagged” gets flagged
yeetaccount2 5y ago
““ ““ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.” Gets flagged” gets flagged“ gets flagged. Is this really ban worthy? Where is the hate?
yeetaccount2 5y ago
“ ““ ““ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.” Gets flagged” gets flagged“ gets flagged. Is this really ban worthy? Where is the hate?” Gets flagged. Nobody wants to engage, they want to silence.
yeetaccount2 5y ago
“ “ ““ ““ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.” Gets flagged” gets flagged“ gets flagged. Is this really ban worthy? Where is the hate?” Gets flagged. Nobody wants to engage, they want to silence.” Gets flagged. I’m bored.
yeetaccount2 5y ago
“ “ “ ““ ““ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.” Gets flagged” gets flagged“ gets flagged. Is this really ban worthy? Where is the hate?” Gets flagged. Nobody wants to engage, they want to silence.” Gets flagged. I’m bored.” Gets flagged. Oh my Yahweh.
yeetaccount2 5y ago
“ “ “ “ “ ““ ““ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.” Gets flagged” gets flagged“ gets flagged. Is this really ban worthy? Where is the hate?” Gets flagged. Nobody wants to engage, they want to silence.” Gets flagged. I’m bored.” Gets flagged. Oh my Yahweh.” Gets flagged. I can only conclude whoever is flagging this has an insecurity problem. Free Palestine.” I laugh at you and will vote and spend against Israel’s interests.
yeetaccount2 5y ago
“ “ “ “ ““ ““ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.” Gets flagged” gets flagged“ gets flagged. Is this really ban worthy? Where is the hate?” Gets flagged. Nobody wants to engage, they want to silence.” Gets flagged. I’m bored.” Gets flagged. Oh my Yahweh.” Gets flagged. I can only conclude whoever is flagging this has an insecurity problem. Free Palestine.
yeetaccount2 5y ago
Israel is for freshly circumcised infant penis sucking perverts.
yeetaccount2 5y ago
I laugh at your offence.
readonthegoapp 5y ago
Flagged for being pro-free speech, or mildly critical of GOP, or US, or Israel, or all of the above?
ykevinator2 5y ago
Because fox news viewers have been duped into liking israel.
haspoken 5y ago
https://archive.md/iTKBr https://archive.md/iTKBr
sndman 5y ago
Why? In short, lawmakers are creating numerous anti-BDS laws attempting to defend freedom;-) as long they align with their own ideological positions. I was actually asked whether "Israel had a right to exist" during an interview. I was astonished. I answered that no country has a "right to exist" and that individuals have a right to self-determination (among other human rights). I still got the job.

63 points by prawn 5y ago

yeetaccount2 5y ago

“ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.

yeetaccount2 5y ago

Apparently being against infant penis suckers is against HN guidelines.flagged. Hahahahahahah.

sndman 5y ago

The author of the opinion piece (Alan Leveritt) is the subject (among others) of a good documentary BOYCOTT by Julia Bacha (not clear how to watch this). Panel discussion and Q&A for the doc is on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26HFbKoA7SU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26HFbKoA7SU

version_five 5y ago

The headline could be clearer. This is about a newspaper being told by a state sponsored advertiser that they must "pledge" not to boycott Israel. It's much more specific than the current headline, which is confusing. Specifically "telling" - like an ad campaign or something is not an infringement of rights vs. "compelling" - which is my read of what is happening in the article.

threwaweigh1911 5y ago

Honestly, the obsession with these types of tropes are getting old. The world goes on, exemplary individuals shine and legislation gets passed, where are the narratives going to be when even questioning something so blatanly apparent is even a question worth asking?

loudtieblahblah 5y ago

[flagged]

chromaton 5y ago

If you do ITAR work, there are also federal-level reporting regulations regarding boycotting Israel.

1cvmask 5y ago
What do you mean? As in you should or you can't boycott? ITAR is something I have almost no knowledge on.

glial 5y ago

I grew up in Arkansas. I love the Arkansas Times and have fond memories reading it in coffee shops as a teenager and college student. Advertisers advertise with whomever they wish, but I'm having a hard time understanding how laws that mandate a political position - any political position - aren't clear violations of the first amendment.

bobthechef 5y ago

The neocons, who have ties to the Israel lobby, have been running the Republican party for some time, so this is not surprising.

yeetaccount2 5y ago
If you skimmed the article it involves top level dems, too. Disclaimer: I hate statists that dabble in religion. Send them to double-barrel buckshot hell.
bo1024 5y ago
The article discusses similar executive orders and laws originating from Democrats as well (New York and California)...
- smegsicle 5y ago
  That's not surprising either, since they also have ties.
hourislate 5y ago
Israel runs both parties...Just look at the Biden Cabinet.
- adultSwim 5y ago
  You have it backwards. Israel is a US client state. "If there were not an Israel, we would have to invent one to make sure our interests were preserved" Joe Biden, 2013

Iefthandrule 5y ago

> There is going to be certain things that happen in Israel before Christ returns. There will be famines and disease and war. And the Jewish people are going to go back to their homeland. At that point Jesus Christ will come back to the earth.” He added, “Anybody, Jewish or not Jewish, that doesn’t accept Christ, in my opinion, will end up going to hell.” It is clear why America is mocked on the national stage.

oh_sigh 5y ago
Because people don't understand that individuals do not represent the whole? Do you make these points just about Americans, or do you use the same logic for other demographic information? If you see a black man rob a store, do you say "and this is why racist whites hate black people" as if it is somehow a pat on the back for the stereotyping group?
- bestcoder69 5y ago
  State senators do represent a whole bunch of individuals though. In fact you gotta get a whole bunch of individuals together to agree to elect one!
dudul 5y ago
First of you probably meant on the "international stage". Second, America doesn't care about your xenophobia.
wmil 5y ago
The people making the movie “Boycott” got a state senator to say that, but it's not what's driving the debate.
ykevinator2 5y ago
you sound like a heavens gate member. supernatural is not real and i hope you sober up and face the reality that conception cannot occur without sperm and no one has ever risen from the dead.
jl2718 5y ago

yeetaccount2 5y ago

Yeah Israel sucks ass. But the alternative is Muslim zealots consolidating a lot more power in the region. Glass it TBH. P.U. let’s get some Pu.

trothamel 5y ago

While probably not related, this is weirdly similar to Executive Order 14042, which was the one produced by the current administration to mandate covid vaccinations among federal contractors and subcontractors. It's even down to the point where both seem to regulate not doing something.

qwertyuiop_ 5y ago

@ Dang can we flag this ? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.

jl2718 5y ago
It seems to me like a candid factual account of something that is both surprising and unknown to most people.

yeetaccount2 5y ago

Jesus I just had a comment that got banned in like 5 minutes. I don’t hate Jews or Muslims or anything, wtf. Here’s a quote: > Yeah Israel sucks ass. But the alternative is Muslim zealots consolidating a lot more power in the region. Glass it TBH. P.U. let’s get some Pu. Are Muslim zealots desirable? Are Jew zealots desirable? They all suck and my life is better without them both. I don’t hate btw. E:about to get flagged…

deleted 5y ago

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yeetaccount2 5y ago

AHAHAHA you bitches got me on refresh.

yeetaccount2 5y ago

Oh god, I got flagged twice on this post. I’m drunk af btw poking at the mod system > Jesus I just had a comment that got banned in like 5 minutes. I don’t hate Jews or Muslims or anything, wtf. Here’s a quote: >> Yeah Israel sucks ass. But the alternative is Muslim zealots consolidating a lot more power in the region. Glass it TBH. P.U. let’s get some Pu. >Are Muslim zealots desirable? Are Jew zealots desirable? They all suck and my life is better without them both. I don’t hate btw. E:about to get flagged…

yeetaccount2 5y ago

The insanity continues… >Oh god, I got flagged twice on this post. I’m drunk af btw poking at the mod system >> Jesus I just had a comment that got banned in like 5 minutes. I don’t hate Jews or Muslims or anything, wtf. Here’s a quote: >>> Yeah Israel sucks ass. But the alternative is Muslim zealots consolidating a lot more power in the region. Glass it TBH. P.U. let’s get some Pu. >>Are Muslim zealots desirable? Are Jew zealots desirable? They all suck and my life is better without them both. I don’t hate btw. E:about to get flagged…

yeetaccount2 5y ago

Oh my non extant god this whole post is flagged because a religious group has such a sore asshole after sucking circumcised infant penises > The insanity continues… >>Oh god, I got flagged twice on this post. I’m drunk af btw poking at the mod system >>> Jesus I just had a comment that got banned in like 5 minutes. I don’t hate Jews or Muslims or anything, wtf. Here’s a quote: >>>> Yeah Israel sucks ass. But the alternative is Muslim zealots consolidating a lot more power in the region. Glass it TBH. P.U. let’s get some Pu. >>>Are Muslim zealots desirable? Are Jew zealots desirable? They all suck and my life is better without them both. I don’t hate btw. E:about to get flagged…

yeetaccount2 5y ago

Jews got butthurt and abused the mod system. HN sucks freshly circumcised infant penis. Just like a Rabbi.

yeetaccount2 5y ago

This post getting flagged shows just how insecure the pro Israel crowd is.

yeetaccount2 5y ago

Flagged before I post.

int_19h 5y ago

Ironically, the heavy-handed attempts to censor and suppress BDS is what ultimately led me to support them.

yeetaccount2 5y ago

Free Palestine.

yeetaccount2 5y ago

“Free Palestine” gets flagged.

yeetaccount2 5y ago

““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.

yeetaccount2 5y ago

““ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.” Gets flagged

yeetaccount2 5y ago

“ ““ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.” Gets flagged” gets flagged

yeetaccount2 5y ago

““ ““ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.” Gets flagged” gets flagged“ gets flagged. Is this really ban worthy? Where is the hate?

yeetaccount2 5y ago

“ ““ ““ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.” Gets flagged” gets flagged“ gets flagged. Is this really ban worthy? Where is the hate?” Gets flagged. Nobody wants to engage, they want to silence.

yeetaccount2 5y ago

“ “ ““ ““ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.” Gets flagged” gets flagged“ gets flagged. Is this really ban worthy? Where is the hate?” Gets flagged. Nobody wants to engage, they want to silence.” Gets flagged. I’m bored.

yeetaccount2 5y ago

“ “ “ ““ ““ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.” Gets flagged” gets flagged“ gets flagged. Is this really ban worthy? Where is the hate?” Gets flagged. Nobody wants to engage, they want to silence.” Gets flagged. I’m bored.” Gets flagged. Oh my Yahweh.

yeetaccount2 5y ago

“ “ “ “ “ ““ ““ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.” Gets flagged” gets flagged“ gets flagged. Is this really ban worthy? Where is the hate?” Gets flagged. Nobody wants to engage, they want to silence.” Gets flagged. I’m bored.” Gets flagged. Oh my Yahweh.” Gets flagged. I can only conclude whoever is flagging this has an insecurity problem. Free Palestine.” I laugh at you and will vote and spend against Israel’s interests.

yeetaccount2 5y ago

“ “ “ “ ““ ““ ““Free Palestine” gets flagged” gets flagged.” gets flagged.” Gets flagged” gets flagged“ gets flagged. Is this really ban worthy? Where is the hate?” Gets flagged. Nobody wants to engage, they want to silence.” Gets flagged. I’m bored.” Gets flagged. Oh my Yahweh.” Gets flagged. I can only conclude whoever is flagging this has an insecurity problem. Free Palestine.

yeetaccount2 5y ago

Israel is for freshly circumcised infant penis sucking perverts.

yeetaccount2 5y ago

I laugh at your offence.

readonthegoapp 5y ago

Flagged for being pro-free speech, or mildly critical of GOP, or US, or Israel, or all of the above?

ykevinator2 5y ago

Because fox news viewers have been duped into liking israel.

haspoken 5y ago

https://archive.md/iTKBr https://archive.md/iTKBr

sndman 5y ago

Why? In short, lawmakers are creating numerous anti-BDS laws attempting to defend freedom;-) as long they align with their own ideological positions. I was actually asked whether "Israel had a right to exist" during an interview. I was astonished. I answered that no country has a "right to exist" and that individuals have a right to self-determination (among other human rights). I still got the job.