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I don't think the Rust community is particularly prone to public drama. What other events are you thinking of?

politician 5y ago
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- belval 5y ago
  Honestly I don't think this proves anything, change "Rust" for "Python", "Java", "C++" or even "Javascript" and you will get a similar number of results with Python being actually higher than Rust.
  - politician 5y ago
    It’s not the number of search results, but the frequency of events. Admittedly, there isn’t anyone aggregating events and I only looked for the most recent 3 before stopping. I’m sure there’s some insider who’s better positioned to tell the history of the language and the community.
  - twic 5y ago
    I tried Java. Most of the hits are on sentences like "slowed down dramatically", "changed dramatically", and "latency shifts dramatically under load". There are also: "So, upon hearing that the .net foundation is spending all of its time generating stacks of bureaucracy and causing internal drama" "Oracle provides RHEL build and it's pretty good. No CentOS drama, it's free and just works." "I'd be surprised if you found any dramas with the language." There's no actual drama. Until page 4, when i find: "Completely a drama" In an article about Rust.
  - ksec 5y ago
    I dont remember any drama on Python, Java, C++ or JS on HN. But I remember a lot of drama on Ruby and Rust.
- staticassertion 5y ago
  You searched "Rust" and "Drama", this is not exactly compelling. First comment is referring to something that happened years ago. Second comment isn't about Rust at all. Third post is about Steve not liking something that came out of Amazon. Reading on it appears to be more references to Actix, Amazon, totally unrelated/ irrelevant results, etc.
  - politician 5y ago
    No kidding. It’s not a curated dataset, obviously. I looked through a few pages and filtered out the most recent few actual dramas: 1) Rust in the Linux kernel 2) Amazon MUST NOT define Rust 3) Turbofish issue So, yeah, you have to do a bit more work to pull events from Algolia. It’s better than a feeling though and it’s real timestamped data. It’s not Google or Wikipedia though- the most relevant results aren’t just on page 1.
    - staticassertion 5y ago
      I don't think it's better than a feeling? Like, just a quick scan shows the same few things or totally unrelated content.

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belval 5y ago
Honestly I don't think this proves anything, change "Rust" for "Python", "Java", "C++" or even "Javascript" and you will get a similar number of results with Python being actually higher than Rust.
- politician 5y ago
  It’s not the number of search results, but the frequency of events. Admittedly, there isn’t anyone aggregating events and I only looked for the most recent 3 before stopping. I’m sure there’s some insider who’s better positioned to tell the history of the language and the community.
- twic 5y ago
  I tried Java. Most of the hits are on sentences like "slowed down dramatically", "changed dramatically", and "latency shifts dramatically under load". There are also: "So, upon hearing that the .net foundation is spending all of its time generating stacks of bureaucracy and causing internal drama" "Oracle provides RHEL build and it's pretty good. No CentOS drama, it's free and just works." "I'd be surprised if you found any dramas with the language." There's no actual drama. Until page 4, when i find: "Completely a drama" In an article about Rust.
- ksec 5y ago
  I dont remember any drama on Python, Java, C++ or JS on HN. But I remember a lot of drama on Ruby and Rust.
staticassertion 5y ago
You searched "Rust" and "Drama", this is not exactly compelling. First comment is referring to something that happened years ago. Second comment isn't about Rust at all. Third post is about Steve not liking something that came out of Amazon. Reading on it appears to be more references to Actix, Amazon, totally unrelated/ irrelevant results, etc.
- politician 5y ago
  No kidding. It’s not a curated dataset, obviously. I looked through a few pages and filtered out the most recent few actual dramas: 1) Rust in the Linux kernel 2) Amazon MUST NOT define Rust 3) Turbofish issue So, yeah, you have to do a bit more work to pull events from Algolia. It’s better than a feeling though and it’s real timestamped data. It’s not Google or Wikipedia though- the most relevant results aren’t just on page 1.
  - staticassertion 5y ago
    I don't think it's better than a feeling? Like, just a quick scan shows the same few things or totally unrelated content.