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Again, this is the thought of people with nice detached houses in the suburbs. Commuting doesn't have to be the horrible pain some people make it out to be. Whe

by zwkrt 5y ago

Again, this is the thought of people with nice detached houses in the suburbs. Commuting doesn't have to be the horrible pain some people make it out to be. When working for Amazon, I always lived within a 30 minute walk of the office. The walk through Seattle was always beautiful and I looked forward to it each day. I would get a coffee at the same cafe and had relationships with people there. Some days I would leave early and sit in the park for a while. On the way back home I would stop and get dinner or grocieries, often with friends. WFH reality means that the most pleasant part of my day is destroyed. It takes all the joy of living in the city away.

eganist 5y ago
> WFH reality means that the most pleasant part of my day is destroyed. It takes all the joy of living in the city away. Then don't wfh if your company gives you the option to do one or the other. Companies that today mandate one mode or the other (or some odd combination) are losing the potential value the ill-affected team can bring to the table. WFH for those who'd like to, WFO for those who don't. People working from the office saying "well I can't be as effective if so few people are coming into the office" are basically saying that their productivity needs outweigh the productivity needs of others.
ajkdhcb2 5y ago
I don't understand why you can't go for a walk while WFH. You're still the same distance from the cafe. If anything, with less constraint on your route, it leaves you more time to walk to more varied and nicer places
caskstrength 5y ago
You are saying that you always live near your office, so who is stopping you from going to the same park or cafe while WFH?
- throwaheyy 5y ago
  Because then you go back home, which is really your work. The WFH pushers like to set up a “why spend 1-2 hours on commute when you could use that time on other things” straw-man. Some of us enjoyed our 20-30 minute commute as a separation between work and the rest of our lives. It is not nice to come home from that coffee shop and see your workplace, waiting for you, across the room when you walk in your front door.
  - caskstrength 5y ago
    > It is not nice to come home from that coffee shop and see your workplace, waiting for you, across the room when you walk in your front door. Dunno, I just close my work laptop when I'm done working and ignore it for the rest of my day just fine. I understand that non-insignificant amount of people have some weird psychological issue with that, but I don't agree that we should force everyone back to the office because of that.
    - throwaheyy 5y ago
      You might (bigotedly) dismiss it as a “weird psychological issue”, but I look at it as a personal boundary.

by zwkrt 5y ago

eganist 5y ago

> WFH reality means that the most pleasant part of my day is destroyed. It takes all the joy of living in the city away. Then don't wfh if your company gives you the option to do one or the other. Companies that today mandate one mode or the other (or some odd combination) are losing the potential value the ill-affected team can bring to the table. WFH for those who'd like to, WFO for those who don't. People working from the office saying "well I can't be as effective if so few people are coming into the office" are basically saying that their productivity needs outweigh the productivity needs of others.

ajkdhcb2 5y ago

I don't understand why you can't go for a walk while WFH. You're still the same distance from the cafe. If anything, with less constraint on your route, it leaves you more time to walk to more varied and nicer places

caskstrength 5y ago

You are saying that you always live near your office, so who is stopping you from going to the same park or cafe while WFH?

throwaheyy 5y ago
Because then you go back home, which is really your work. The WFH pushers like to set up a “why spend 1-2 hours on commute when you could use that time on other things” straw-man. Some of us enjoyed our 20-30 minute commute as a separation between work and the rest of our lives. It is not nice to come home from that coffee shop and see your workplace, waiting for you, across the room when you walk in your front door.
- caskstrength 5y ago
  > It is not nice to come home from that coffee shop and see your workplace, waiting for you, across the room when you walk in your front door. Dunno, I just close my work laptop when I'm done working and ignore it for the rest of my day just fine. I understand that non-insignificant amount of people have some weird psychological issue with that, but I don't agree that we should force everyone back to the office because of that.
  - throwaheyy 5y ago
    You might (bigotedly) dismiss it as a “weird psychological issue”, but I look at it as a personal boundary.