> I don't think that volunteer development is sustainable in the long-terms and can lead to a usable (daily driver for non-nerds) GNU/Linux phone without comme

> I don't think that volunteer development is sustainable in the long-terms and can lead to a usable (daily driver for non-nerds) GNU/Linux phone without commercial contribution. That's interesting, but arguing that is not my goal in this discussion. You just asked what other comapny builds phones that can run dekstop OS and apps. Pine64 now has two. And IMO best uscease for that is without any PureOS components, just with straight desktop apps as existed before all this adaptation to smartphone form factor and touch interface. (It's my bias showing here, because I don't like nor use GNOME dekstop environement. Someone who likes GNOME may enjoy that PureOS putting some effort into making it possible to connect to a monitor and seamlessly transition into some convergent environement where their favorite apps will adapt to the current screen size.)