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Django seems to add too much magic for me. It is mostly manage.py this manage.py that. I can't grok it completely. All the books that I read on it skipped the

by sireat 5y ago

Django seems to add too much magic for me. It is mostly manage.py this manage.py that. I can't grok it completely. All the books that I read on it skipped the architecture part. Maybe there is a good guide to Django architecture - the big picture? PS I am rather experienced in Python (Numpy, Pandas, Plotly, Flask, SQLAlchemy, FastAPI, BeautifulSoup are my bread and butter)

derekjdanserl 5y ago
You list a bunch of libraries, but Django is not a library. It is a framework. The Django file structure, for example, is not exactly optional in Django. Realize FastAPI follows in the footsteps of Flask. Neither FastAPI or Flask are frameworks. As a FastAPI user myself, I do think it’s closer to a happy medium, but it’s nothing remotely comparable to Django. When using Django, the best advice I have is to dive all the way in. Follow the docs and the best practices first. Besides, manage.py is just like having a well-developed kit of shell scripts/ in your repo.
- sireat 5y ago
  I am well aware that Django is a framework and yes it is quite strict about the way you set it up. That is a reasonable price to pay for the batteries included approach. What I am saying that I do not grok the big picture of Django flow. For some reason I got up to speed with Laravel much faster and I do not write much PHP. The books that I skimmed (like recommended Two Scoops of Django) just go into various things you can do but do not show the big picture.
  - traverseda 5y ago
    You write views, and they render templates. There's a file called `urls.py` where you import a view and attach it to an actual url. So appconfig/urls.py depends on yourapp/views.py which renders html using a template at yourapp/templates/sometemplate.html Presuming that you want to interact with the database `yourapp/views.py` probably also depends on models from `yourapp/models.py` or some other apps database model.

by sireat 5y ago

derekjdanserl 5y ago

You list a bunch of libraries, but Django is not a library. It is a framework. The Django file structure, for example, is not exactly optional in Django. Realize FastAPI follows in the footsteps of Flask. Neither FastAPI or Flask are frameworks. As a FastAPI user myself, I do think it’s closer to a happy medium, but it’s nothing remotely comparable to Django. When using Django, the best advice I have is to dive all the way in. Follow the docs and the best practices first. Besides, manage.py is just like having a well-developed kit of shell scripts/ in your repo.

sireat 5y ago
I am well aware that Django is a framework and yes it is quite strict about the way you set it up. That is a reasonable price to pay for the batteries included approach. What I am saying that I do not grok the big picture of Django flow. For some reason I got up to speed with Laravel much faster and I do not write much PHP. The books that I skimmed (like recommended Two Scoops of Django) just go into various things you can do but do not show the big picture.
- traverseda 5y ago
  You write views, and they render templates. There's a file called `urls.py` where you import a view and attach it to an actual url. So appconfig/urls.py depends on yourapp/views.py which renders html using a template at yourapp/templates/sometemplate.html Presuming that you want to interact with the database `yourapp/views.py` probably also depends on models from `yourapp/models.py` or some other apps database model.