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Wow, a lot of the copy on that page is pretty bad... "Parents: You will love the Librem 5 because it will allow you to communicate with your child, ..." -- Um,

by seoaeu 5y ago

Wow, a lot of the copy on that page is pretty bad... "Parents: You will love the Librem 5 because it will allow you to communicate with your child, ..." -- Um, in 2021 people know what a phone is. Maybe skip to the part about why yours is better than the competition? "Lifetime updates that actually extend your phone’s life" -- Do they think updates from other companies make their phones self destruct? Seems like they're alluding to specific scandals, but it is kind of odd not to link to them directly. Also comes across as really evasive to not say how many years of updates they guarantee. "Real convergence means bringing your desktop computer with you wherever you go." -- Have you not heard of a laptop? Surely they could have started with an actual definition of what convergence means. Doesn't help that the rest of the paragraph is talking about how hard they worked shrinking the OS instead of why you'd want the feature. (Side note: operating systems are software so nothing special is needed to get one to physically fit in my pocket)

fsflover 5y ago
> Do they think updates from other companies make their phones self destruct? Actually, it's the lack of updates from other companies making their phones self-destruct, as in they become unusable bricks. If the software is proprietary, you have no way of updating it yourself. > Also comes across as really evasive to not say how many years of updates they guarantee. It's "forever". The devices run FLOSS, which means that even if Purism disappears, they will still get updates from the Linux community. My 12+-year-old laptop runs latest Debian. > Surely they could have started with an actual definition of what convergence means. It's linked: https://puri.sm/posts/converging-on-convergence-pureos-is-convergent-welcome-to-the-future/ https://puri.sm/posts/converging-on-convergence-pureos-is-co....
- seoaeu 5y ago
  Those are all reasonable arguments which would have made sense to include on the product webpage. That said, are there really that many people who are unhappy with the 5-7 years of support that a company like Apple provides? And is it really such a great strategy to emphasize a target audience of "people who want to keep their phones indefinitely instead of buying new ones"?
  - fsflover 5y ago
    I agree that the page could benefit from some improvements. However see this nice comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29309861 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29309861. If all you care is longevity, then Apple is definitely a good choice. However, if you also value freedom, then your only other mainstream choice is Android, which is only supported for 3 years or less.

by seoaeu 5y ago

fsflover 5y ago

> Do they think updates from other companies make their phones self destruct? Actually, it's the lack of updates from other companies making their phones self-destruct, as in they become unusable bricks. If the software is proprietary, you have no way of updating it yourself. > Also comes across as really evasive to not say how many years of updates they guarantee. It's "forever". The devices run FLOSS, which means that even if Purism disappears, they will still get updates from the Linux community. My 12+-year-old laptop runs latest Debian. > Surely they could have started with an actual definition of what convergence means. It's linked: https://puri.sm/posts/converging-on-convergence-pureos-is-convergent-welcome-to-the-future/ https://puri.sm/posts/converging-on-convergence-pureos-is-co....

seoaeu 5y ago
Those are all reasonable arguments which would have made sense to include on the product webpage. That said, are there really that many people who are unhappy with the 5-7 years of support that a company like Apple provides? And is it really such a great strategy to emphasize a target audience of "people who want to keep their phones indefinitely instead of buying new ones"?
- fsflover 5y ago
  I agree that the page could benefit from some improvements. However see this nice comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29309861 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29309861. If all you care is longevity, then Apple is definitely a good choice. However, if you also value freedom, then your only other mainstream choice is Android, which is only supported for 3 years or less.