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Thank you for being flawed enough that you failed to stop Android taking over the phone market, and thereby preventing the world from entering a technology dark
by zmmmmm 15y ago
Thank you for being flawed enough that you failed to stop Android taking over the phone market, and thereby preventing the world from entering a technology dark ages where hardware and software ecosystems are locked down and controlled by huge corporations.
- fabulous 15y agoAndroid is the Modern day Nokia. Android's marketshare is WORTHLESS. Android is nothing but a 2nd rate copycat mobile OS from an evil corporation whose main goal is to steal user data and serve us shitty ads. Google is devoid of morals, ethics and taste. They sell ads for chrissakes! They're as low in the totem pole as used car salesmen! Android is nothing without iOS. NOTHING. Google is being sued left and right because they are nothing but a bunch of COPYCAT ONE-TRICK PONY. ....and let me just say that Larry Page is an UGLY horse tooth jackass. And Andy Rubin looks like the retarded gay lover of Elton John.
- BasDirks 15y agoAs it seems that non-hackers and just general idiots become more common on HN, it would be nice if pg & friends thought about some counter-measures.
- coryl 15y agoThat's what the downvote is for
- swombat 15y agoActually, in the case of such an egregiously stupid comment, that's what the flag button is for.
- paul9290 15y agoWhile I agree fabulous's comment is totally inappropriate Im caught off guard by some comments to my submissions and or commments left. For instance I recently unsubscribed to Groupon emails. After doing so Groupon pointed me to a page to watch a tongue and cheek video to get me to change my mind. I hate getting spam emails and I was very eager to banish any further Groupons (signed up by mistake). There tongue and cheek video was very ineffective for me. I did think it was unique, interesting and something worth sharing. But, since I felt negatively towards it the title of my submission was "Worst Email Unsubscibe Page?". Because that is how I felt about it but still wondered what others thought. For whatever reason because I chose a negative title the submission was flamed - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2928041 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2928041 Again that is how I felt time of writing the title because it was un-effective for me, but wondered what others thought about it. Ive been reading HN since May '07 (various accounts) so Im not a noob. Maybe Im someone who thinks differently at times then others here?
- Mz 15y agoI am someone who is actively resistant to "group-think". It often gets me in hot water to be so out of step. It's tricky to be very out of step with a group and still participate in a meaningful, constructive fashion. I try extremely hard to avoid framing things in a blatantly negative fashion. Negative framing of that sort seems to only work if the majority are pretty much guaranteed to heartily agree.
- swombat 15y agoIirc, the first title was "Worst Email Unsubscribe Page" without question mark. Also, the post was basically an editorial comment. I think it would have been flamed less if you had taken the time to write a short blog post about it and then submitted that.
- BasDirks 15y agoNot really. Downvote is for poor responses, which are still more or less acceptable. We don't want to spend our time on HN downvoting trolling clowns and other vermin.
- DeusExMachina 15y agoI understand the general idiots point, but why non-hackers? I remember that a lot of time I read very valuable comments from doctors, or lawyers, or mathematicians. Some of the articles that go to the front page are not related to hacking and this has always been fine.
- BasDirks 15y agohm, non-hackers was bad wording on my part. I guess my view of hackers is very broad, describing a mindset, not particular skillsets.
- revorad 15y agoAre you suggesting Android is not controlled by a huge corporation? Android is a lot more open than iOS, but the interaction with customers is completely controlled by a handful of corporations. We need an open source hardware device running a truly open source OS. That would be really nice. EDIT: Even if we don't have open source hardware, what would be great is having the ability to buy modular parts to build up our own devices. This used to be common practice with desktops, but got totally killed since laptops took over. If I had an extra life, that would be my startup.
- MatthewPhillips 15y agoI'm worried that we'll never be able to build our own phones the way we can build our own PCs with commodity hardware due to the crazy patent situation. Probably hardware and software will continue to be locked down (or in Android's case, released to open-source many many months after official release), but we'll be rescued by the web the same way we were in the PC era.
- runn1ng 15y agoOn the other hand, iPhone OS (or how was it called in early days) was a clear inspiration for Android. You cannot deny Apple basically invented many phone UI metaphors, that were directly copied (and I don't mean it in negative sense) into Android UI. And to your other point... closed nature has its upsides too. Look at gaming consoles, they work quite well despite being crazy controlled. And Apple never wanted to dominate the whole phone market... if you remember the iPhone introduction, they didn't want to own the whole market. They defined its own category, basically :)
- MatthewPhillips 15y agoI would argue that the best gaming console of all time is the PC.
- mambodog 15y agoI would argue that the PC is a terrible gaming console, as crappy drivers and graphics APIs (and the wide variety of hardware) rob PC games of huge amounts of the total performance the hardware is capable of.
- ori_b 15y agoI'm not sure about that. The iPhone UI is definitely a good piece of engineering, and it's certainly more polished than what came before, but I don't think it invented anything novel.
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