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Pin/password can also be hacked and there is no need for fancy 3D printer. Someone can use their smartphone to film other person as they type stuff in, no need
by ozim 5y ago
Pin/password can also be hacked and there is no need for fancy 3D printer.
Someone can use their smartphone to film other person as they type stuff in, no need for printing fake print. They can steal phone/laptop as soon as they are done filming.
This is the case that fingerprint sensors are preventing.
Pointing out problems is useless - as people don't have alternative that would be "all-mighty secure without flaws".
It should be defense in depth not - and that is already there for example banking apps - you need fingerprint to unlock the phone and banking app requires its own specific PIN. Getting those 2 things makes it much harder for bad guys to do something like money transfer. Yeah they might get your photos and other stuff - but probably there are secure store apps that would encrypt your photos if you have ones that you really want to protect.
- rhn_mk1 5y ago> This is the case that fingerprint sensors are preventing. They aren't. Your parent post already mentioned that they were extracted by filming. Passwords don't have the other 2 problems, and I'm not really sure what is gained by not talking about them.
- ozim 5y agoFor fingerprint it is "using several close-range photos in order to capture every angle" - to get PIN, I need one angle and probably not even close-range of video and even weird angle if I have to sneak up onto someone in a metro or in a coffee shop.
- UncleEntity 5y agowell, TFA used one photo...
- ozim 5y agoHow convenient for them that they: 1) did not write what are needed parameters of the photo or quality of left fingerprint 2) it does not look like they used photo from an angle of the screen as in article but some other closeup 3) somehow unlock stuff with thumb where most people use index finger 4) then they use index finger to operate "thumb" print 5) who touches screen like that with thumb, who touches back of the phone like that In the end with PIN I can look over someones shoulder and not even have to make a video. I agree with the premise of what they say that people might think fingerprint is "super secure" while it is not... But it is secure enough for most of the people and more secure that typing in PIN or short password or for people using 0000 or 1234 as PIN.
- rhn_mk1 5y agoIt makes one issue less severe at the cost of adding 2 extra problems. I don't think that warrants a generalization of "secure enough".
- Normal_gaussian 5y agoThe fancy 3D printer in this case is a regular toner printer and some garden variety wood glue.