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Then don’t make a whole big public announcement about it. As someone from the outside this just reads like a post specifically to generate drama and attention b

Then don’t make a whole big public announcement about it. As someone from the outside this just reads like a post specifically to generate drama and attention but not giving details as to direct it at anyone in particular.

baseballdork 5y ago
Not sure that I'd call a PR a "whole big public announcement". Sure, it wound up here, but I don't think you can blame that on the mod team.
- fragile_frogs 5y ago
  They also posted the resignation on the Rust subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/qzme1z/moderation_team_resignation/ https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/qzme1z/moderation_tea...
  - llogiq 5y ago
    If matthieum hadn't done it, someone else would have (and has; some dupes have appeared and were subsequently removed).
quacker 5y ago
There's a community of external contributors that deserve (or would appreciate) some notification about it though.
phoe-krk 5y ago
> Then don’t make a whole big public announcement about it. I don't understand. How do you resign from a public project without resigning from that public project? If it is not about the resignation but about the message, do you think that a "we are resigning as a whole team that was made pbulic and we do not provide any public reason for that" would work any better?
- whatshisface 5y ago
  They could have resigned without making a post about it. Is that a good idea? Maybe, it depends on the details we don't know.
  - kbenson 5y ago
    And what, leave the Rust community not knowing that there's no CoC team because they've all resigned over something, but the community wasn't informed? It's not like there's some membership card with paid dues. Their responsibility was to anyone that viewed themselves as part of the Rust community, and consumes anything to do with that community (whether or not they put anything into it). Not informing all the people of that community because it appeases random public commenters would be a far worse failure of their duties than letting the general public gossip.
    - whatshisface 5y ago
      >leave the Rust community not knowing that there's no CoC team They did have the option of finding replacements before leaving.
      - colejohnson66 5y ago
        Employees have no duty to find replacements for their employer. There's especially no moral duty if your bosses are being jerks. I'd say that logic applies to this situation as well.
  - phoe-krk 5y ago
    This isn't a post, it's a PR. If your names are listed in a public Git repository, then you need to have them removed if you resign. This means a PR and a review of that PR, which is exactly what happened here.
pdpi 5y ago
Alternative: They step down without an announcement, get replaced, somebody pieces it together and posts it on HN or reddit or something, and now you have all the same drama from announcing it publicly, plus all the added drama from the "secret step down".

baseballdork 5y ago

Not sure that I'd call a PR a "whole big public announcement". Sure, it wound up here, but I don't think you can blame that on the mod team.

fragile_frogs 5y ago
They also posted the resignation on the Rust subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/qzme1z/moderation_team_resignation/ https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/qzme1z/moderation_tea...
- llogiq 5y ago
  If matthieum hadn't done it, someone else would have (and has; some dupes have appeared and were subsequently removed).

quacker 5y ago

There's a community of external contributors that deserve (or would appreciate) some notification about it though.

phoe-krk 5y ago

> Then don’t make a whole big public announcement about it. I don't understand. How do you resign from a public project without resigning from that public project? If it is not about the resignation but about the message, do you think that a "we are resigning as a whole team that was made pbulic and we do not provide any public reason for that" would work any better?

whatshisface 5y ago
They could have resigned without making a post about it. Is that a good idea? Maybe, it depends on the details we don't know.
- kbenson 5y ago
  And what, leave the Rust community not knowing that there's no CoC team because they've all resigned over something, but the community wasn't informed? It's not like there's some membership card with paid dues. Their responsibility was to anyone that viewed themselves as part of the Rust community, and consumes anything to do with that community (whether or not they put anything into it). Not informing all the people of that community because it appeases random public commenters would be a far worse failure of their duties than letting the general public gossip.
  - whatshisface 5y ago
    >leave the Rust community not knowing that there's no CoC team They did have the option of finding replacements before leaving.
    - colejohnson66 5y ago
      Employees have no duty to find replacements for their employer. There's especially no moral duty if your bosses are being jerks. I'd say that logic applies to this situation as well.
- phoe-krk 5y ago
  This isn't a post, it's a PR. If your names are listed in a public Git repository, then you need to have them removed if you resign. This means a PR and a review of that PR, which is exactly what happened here.

pdpi 5y ago

Alternative: They step down without an announcement, get replaced, somebody pieces it together and posts it on HN or reddit or something, and now you have all the same drama from announcing it publicly, plus all the added drama from the "secret step down".