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It’s a sanity check. Can we afford to not do X? because thank God there is some commonality in disgust. Clearly not at the moment, but I doubt even the original

by atian 5y ago

It’s a sanity check. Can we afford to not do X? because thank God there is some commonality in disgust. Clearly not at the moment, but I doubt even the original authors of those comments care more than you do. It’s a feature and not a bug.

0x0nyandesu 5y ago
The people insisting on this just want to use HN as their megaphone. There is no debate. They have already made up their minds. It comes off about as well as an insufferable teenager at Thanksgiving dinner. Some feature.
- modeless 5y ago
  I mean, that's 99% of internet comments. There are many topics I disagree with the HN majority (or vocal minority) on, and it becomes tiresome to see the same old stuff rehashed in every article when it's mostly off topic. But if we didn't allow people to comment unless they were genuinely open to having their mind changed about something, there would be no comments. If you debate someone on the internet, you will never change their mind. But you might influence the opinion of someone else who reads your comments, and that's the best you can hope for. Also, when a large number of people are wrong about something, there is often an opportunity of some kind associated with that. An investing opportunity, a career opportunity, a startup opportunity. When you see what others don't it can be a big advantage. So, embrace it.
- ErikVandeWater 5y ago
  You said in your first comment it "devolves into a debate." Now you're saying there is no debate. Poor consistency/word choice also lowers the value of HN discussion.
  - 0x0nyandesu 5y ago
    Person A: this is not a good venue to have a debate. Person B: yes it is debate ensues Person B: I thought you were against debates. Picard facepalm You know I dated someone with bipolar disorder once. It went exactly like this. It's funny that HN threads exhibit the same behaviors.
    - ErikVandeWater 5y ago
      Comedy at its finest! You've cast yourself as the person arguing that HN is a poor place for debates.

by atian 5y ago

0x0nyandesu 5y ago

The people insisting on this just want to use HN as their megaphone. There is no debate. They have already made up their minds. It comes off about as well as an insufferable teenager at Thanksgiving dinner. Some feature.

modeless 5y ago
I mean, that's 99% of internet comments. There are many topics I disagree with the HN majority (or vocal minority) on, and it becomes tiresome to see the same old stuff rehashed in every article when it's mostly off topic. But if we didn't allow people to comment unless they were genuinely open to having their mind changed about something, there would be no comments. If you debate someone on the internet, you will never change their mind. But you might influence the opinion of someone else who reads your comments, and that's the best you can hope for. Also, when a large number of people are wrong about something, there is often an opportunity of some kind associated with that. An investing opportunity, a career opportunity, a startup opportunity. When you see what others don't it can be a big advantage. So, embrace it.
ErikVandeWater 5y ago
You said in your first comment it "devolves into a debate." Now you're saying there is no debate. Poor consistency/word choice also lowers the value of HN discussion.
- 0x0nyandesu 5y ago
  Person A: this is not a good venue to have a debate. Person B: yes it is debate ensues Person B: I thought you were against debates. Picard facepalm You know I dated someone with bipolar disorder once. It went exactly like this. It's funny that HN threads exhibit the same behaviors.
  - ErikVandeWater 5y ago
    Comedy at its finest! You've cast yourself as the person arguing that HN is a poor place for debates.