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Linux with Linus, who famously had to change his abusive tone? GCC with Richard Stallman, accused of various kinds of sexual misconduct? Python, which felt it n

by Shoue 5y ago

Linux with Linus, who famously had to change his abusive tone? GCC with Richard Stallman, accused of various kinds of sexual misconduct? Python, which felt it necessary to impose a CoC eventually? Your counter examples are questionable at best.

azth 5y ago
He changed his tone, he wasn't "cancelled" as how it is a fad to do today. There are no "cocs" for a very long time now. It's only after pandering to the SJW's that are unfortunately causing harm to everything they touch.
teddyh 5y ago
If “accused” is the worst you could come up with, maybe you shouldn’t spread random accusations so wildly. Anyway, regarding Richard Stallman and those accusations of “various kinds of sexual misconduct”: https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/ https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/
- Shoue 5y ago
  What random accusations am I "spreading so wildly"? The fact that Stallman is being accused of various kinds of sexual misconduct is a fact. I did not anywhere claim they were true. I'm pointing it out because it makes the points above stand on shakier ground. The article you shared also fails to defend many of the accusations against Stallman and completely ignores them, for example the "Emacs virgin girl" situation.
  - teddyh 5y ago
    Technically, what you did was to insinuate, not directly accuse. Which one is worse? Since you seem to have a great interest in this, do have any concrete reference to the “Emacs virgin” situation? I have only a vague recollection that Stallman was referring to anyone who had not used Emacs yet as an “Emacs virgin”, and some people took it as meaning some kind of sex thing. (Any other references to the “many of the accusations against Stallman” that wasn’t referenced in the linked article would also be interesting to see.)
    - najtdale 5y ago
      There are so many snowflakes in the tech world right now. Horrible.
BoardsOfCanada 5y ago
But Linux had ~20 million lines of code and billions of installs before Linus' change of tone, so I think it is a good counter example.
maccolgan 5y ago
Richard Stallman was accused of ""sexual misconduct"" ?
peoplefromibiza 5y ago
> accused of various kinds of sexual misconduct I don't think this is a fair counter example, he's been accused for expressing personal opinions, on his personal blog. The accusations led to nothing. Linus changed his tones just recently, now that he's older and have children, the "previous version" of Linus brought Linux to where it is though. He's still very harsh when things get highly technical, because he's one of the few people that know at heart what's best for Linux.

by Shoue 5y ago

azth 5y ago

He changed his tone, he wasn't "cancelled" as how it is a fad to do today. There are no "cocs" for a very long time now. It's only after pandering to the SJW's that are unfortunately causing harm to everything they touch.

teddyh 5y ago

If “accused” is the worst you could come up with, maybe you shouldn’t spread random accusations so wildly. Anyway, regarding Richard Stallman and those accusations of “various kinds of sexual misconduct”: https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/ https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/

Shoue 5y ago
What random accusations am I "spreading so wildly"? The fact that Stallman is being accused of various kinds of sexual misconduct is a fact. I did not anywhere claim they were true. I'm pointing it out because it makes the points above stand on shakier ground. The article you shared also fails to defend many of the accusations against Stallman and completely ignores them, for example the "Emacs virgin girl" situation.
- teddyh 5y ago
  Technically, what you did was to insinuate, not directly accuse. Which one is worse? Since you seem to have a great interest in this, do have any concrete reference to the “Emacs virgin” situation? I have only a vague recollection that Stallman was referring to anyone who had not used Emacs yet as an “Emacs virgin”, and some people took it as meaning some kind of sex thing. (Any other references to the “many of the accusations against Stallman” that wasn’t referenced in the linked article would also be interesting to see.)
  - najtdale 5y ago
    There are so many snowflakes in the tech world right now. Horrible.

BoardsOfCanada 5y ago

But Linux had ~20 million lines of code and billions of installs before Linus' change of tone, so I think it is a good counter example.

maccolgan 5y ago

Richard Stallman was accused of ""sexual misconduct"" ?

peoplefromibiza 5y ago

> accused of various kinds of sexual misconduct I don't think this is a fair counter example, he's been accused for expressing personal opinions, on his personal blog. The accusations led to nothing. Linus changed his tones just recently, now that he's older and have children, the "previous version" of Linus brought Linux to where it is though. He's still very harsh when things get highly technical, because he's one of the few people that know at heart what's best for Linux.