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Without knowing details, I can say from experience that those who feel they are the most righteous are often the most wrong. I’ve been on both sides of this. I

Without knowing details, I can say from experience that those who feel they are the most righteous are often the most wrong. I’ve been on both sides of this. If this has to be aired publicly, then we need to be able to objectively assess. Otherwise, I’m reading this as ‘we don’t get along with those guys and gals on the core team and vice versa’, which is, fine, it’s just humans not getting along. Which reminds me, I don’t get along with some team members either. I want to write an email just like this, a veritable ‘fuck off, you stink”. Feels good. Now what? Move along everyone, we’re all adults after all (right?).

HelloNurse 5y ago
I'd rather say that a specific very annoying type of wrong people feels righteous, for reasons that range from psychotic entitlement to not understanding what they are doing. Right people often feel righteous for valid reasons.
- crate_barre 5y ago
  We’ve entered Dunning–Kruger effect, or now days: https://reddit.com/r/NotLikeTheOtherGirls https://reddit.com/r/NotLikeTheOtherGirls So some people are particularly special, huh? I doubt it.
cycomanic 5y ago
Not really, the mod-teams grievance is with the structure (and accountability) of the rust organisation (in particular the core-team). Likely they were triggered by a specific instance, but we can assess the problems with accountability, e.g. the power of the core-team to ignore rules that apply to everyone else quite objectively by looking at the power structures of the organisation. I think if you want to highlight problems with a process/structure it is much better not to get into specifics of one instance. This is what the (former) mod-team is doing.
- crate_barre 5y ago
  So get into the specifics of every instance. Trust me, the world is bored, we’ll be judge and jury on this. Don’t be half assed about it. Ya’ll wanna air it out, air it out.
- KingOfCoders 5y ago
  This is what the mod team says. I can't assess if that is the case or not.

HelloNurse 5y ago

I'd rather say that a specific very annoying type of wrong people feels righteous, for reasons that range from psychotic entitlement to not understanding what they are doing. Right people often feel righteous for valid reasons.

crate_barre 5y ago
We’ve entered Dunning–Kruger effect, or now days: https://reddit.com/r/NotLikeTheOtherGirls https://reddit.com/r/NotLikeTheOtherGirls So some people are particularly special, huh? I doubt it.

cycomanic 5y ago

Not really, the mod-teams grievance is with the structure (and accountability) of the rust organisation (in particular the core-team). Likely they were triggered by a specific instance, but we can assess the problems with accountability, e.g. the power of the core-team to ignore rules that apply to everyone else quite objectively by looking at the power structures of the organisation. I think if you want to highlight problems with a process/structure it is much better not to get into specifics of one instance. This is what the (former) mod-team is doing.

crate_barre 5y ago
So get into the specifics of every instance. Trust me, the world is bored, we’ll be judge and jury on this. Don’t be half assed about it. Ya’ll wanna air it out, air it out.
KingOfCoders 5y ago
This is what the mod team says. I can't assess if that is the case or not.