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Does it? I am not familiar with the Rust language development but I read it as "team that takes care of the core (of the language)".

everybodyknows 5y ago
Equally well read as "all others are non-essential" -- tantamount to "subordinate". Guaranteed to seed resentments among those outside the "core". The social fix would be to change the name "Core" to "Base Language" or some such. Perhaps fork off a separate "Ecosystem" committee with broader representation. Bona fide: Was once myself on the other side of a "Core" team boundary.
capableweb 5y ago
Well, you either have a explicit hierarchy of people working on something, and then the people who are a part of the "top layer" can sometimes start to look down on the ones who belong to the layer below, seeing them as less knowledgeable or not producing useful output. Sometimes that leads to people starting to close down into their current layer, and forms "us-vs-them" groups. Or, you have a implicit hierarchy and basically the same thing happen but the layers don't have names.
- dboreham 5y ago
  This is what humans do.
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- maydup-nem 5y ago
  > "top layer" can sometimes start to look down on the ones who belong to the layer below, seeing them as less knowledgeable or not producing useful output So? Are you going to blame them for seeing the reality as it truly is?
iso8859-1 5y ago
What is the core of a language? Is it the specification? (excluding the standard library?) Is it the compiler frontend or the backend? Or both?
nvrspyx 5y ago
From the website[0]: > Managing the overall direction of Rust, subteam leadership, and any cross-cutting issues This sounds to be more of an "executive team", but I am also unfamiliar with Rust development, so I don't know how accurate that is in practice. 0: https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/core https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/core
tester34 5y ago
When it comes to naming, then from time to time I tend to look at C# and I got impression that there are: "Language Design Team" "Compiler/Roslyn Team(?)" "CLR Team(?)" yada yada so more product/role-driven naming schema
crate_barre 5y ago
Have you talked to people that evangelize Rust? The whole community is elitist, starts at the top I guess.

everybodyknows 5y ago

Equally well read as "all others are non-essential" -- tantamount to "subordinate". Guaranteed to seed resentments among those outside the "core". The social fix would be to change the name "Core" to "Base Language" or some such. Perhaps fork off a separate "Ecosystem" committee with broader representation. Bona fide: Was once myself on the other side of a "Core" team boundary.

capableweb 5y ago

Well, you either have a explicit hierarchy of people working on something, and then the people who are a part of the "top layer" can sometimes start to look down on the ones who belong to the layer below, seeing them as less knowledgeable or not producing useful output. Sometimes that leads to people starting to close down into their current layer, and forms "us-vs-them" groups. Or, you have a implicit hierarchy and basically the same thing happen but the layers don't have names.

dboreham 5y ago
This is what humans do.
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maydup-nem 5y ago
> "top layer" can sometimes start to look down on the ones who belong to the layer below, seeing them as less knowledgeable or not producing useful output So? Are you going to blame them for seeing the reality as it truly is?

iso8859-1 5y ago

What is the core of a language? Is it the specification? (excluding the standard library?) Is it the compiler frontend or the backend? Or both?

nvrspyx 5y ago

From the website[0]: > Managing the overall direction of Rust, subteam leadership, and any cross-cutting issues This sounds to be more of an "executive team", but I am also unfamiliar with Rust development, so I don't know how accurate that is in practice. 0: https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/core https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/core

tester34 5y ago

When it comes to naming, then from time to time I tend to look at C# and I got impression that there are: "Language Design Team" "Compiler/Roslyn Team(?)" "CLR Team(?)" yada yada so more product/role-driven naming schema

crate_barre 5y ago

Have you talked to people that evangelize Rust? The whole community is elitist, starts at the top I guess.