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I always thought that since the beginning, but unfortunately the world went into another direction. People always said "something you have and something you kno

I always thought that since the beginning, but unfortunately the world went into another direction. People always said "something you have and something you know", but now for most cases it's just "something you have - your body". Obviously if in the future remote mind-readers are invented, the "something you know" part will also get obsolete, but for now we should stick to it.

braincoke 5y ago
I believe it's - Something you have (key, device,...) - Something you know - Something you are (biometry) In Europe there is a regulation (PSD2) that defines a strong authentication as 2 of the 3 listed above.
- amalcon 5y ago
  I've always disliked this breakdown. My body is something I have -- it's just potentially (not always practically -- see the article) more difficult to clone or otherwise use without my consent than a key fob or something. Edit: To be clear, I don't think this is an argument for biometrics, but rather an argument against them. They can't complement something I have in a two factor scheme, because my biometrics are something I have.
  - jagged-chisel 5y ago
    But it's the parts that are easily forgeable (fingerprints, retinas, etc) that are being relied upon. By "forgeable" I mean "things that someone else can also have by creating copies." I don't think we have yet good metrics on how to detect specific individuals using a full-body scan. Not to mention the invasiveness of creating your personal initial dataset. Most folks won't stand for it. So right back to parts that are forgeable...
  - avianlyric 5y ago
    Your body isn’t very easy to replace. Passwords and devices are.
    - SEJeff 5y ago
      This is precisely why he is a poor “password” / secret replacement. Whelp, your fingerprints have been cloned. Time to go get them burned off and get some new ones. Yeah, that’s not gonna work.
  - folkrav 5y ago
    I'd tend to describe one's body as a state more than a possession. You are your body, it's not something you can get rid of.

braincoke 5y ago

I believe it's - Something you have (key, device,...) - Something you know - Something you are (biometry) In Europe there is a regulation (PSD2) that defines a strong authentication as 2 of the 3 listed above.

amalcon 5y ago
I've always disliked this breakdown. My body is something I have -- it's just potentially (not always practically -- see the article) more difficult to clone or otherwise use without my consent than a key fob or something. Edit: To be clear, I don't think this is an argument for biometrics, but rather an argument against them. They can't complement something I have in a two factor scheme, because my biometrics are something I have.
- jagged-chisel 5y ago
  But it's the parts that are easily forgeable (fingerprints, retinas, etc) that are being relied upon. By "forgeable" I mean "things that someone else can also have by creating copies." I don't think we have yet good metrics on how to detect specific individuals using a full-body scan. Not to mention the invasiveness of creating your personal initial dataset. Most folks won't stand for it. So right back to parts that are forgeable...
- avianlyric 5y ago
  Your body isn’t very easy to replace. Passwords and devices are.
  - SEJeff 5y ago
    This is precisely why he is a poor “password” / secret replacement. Whelp, your fingerprints have been cloned. Time to go get them burned off and get some new ones. Yeah, that’s not gonna work.
- folkrav 5y ago
  I'd tend to describe one's body as a state more than a possession. You are your body, it's not something you can get rid of.