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Thank Steve Jobs
- zmmmmm 15y agoThank you for being flawed enough that you failed to stop Android taking over the phone market, and thereby preventing the world from entering a technology dark ages where hardware and software ecosystems are locked down and controlled by huge corporations.
- fabulous 15y agoAndroid is the Modern day Nokia. Android's marketshare is WORTHLESS. Android is nothing but a 2nd rate copycat mobile OS from an evil corporation whose main goal is to steal user data and serve us shitty ads. Google is devoid of morals, ethics and taste. They sell ads for chrissakes! They're as low in the totem pole as used car salesmen! Android is nothing without iOS. NOTHING. Google is being sued left and right because they are nothing but a bunch of COPYCAT ONE-TRICK PONY. ....and let me just say that Larry Page is an UGLY horse tooth jackass. And Andy Rubin looks like the retarded gay lover of Elton John.
- BasDirks 15y agoAs it seems that non-hackers and just general idiots become more common on HN, it would be nice if pg & friends thought about some counter-measures.
- coryl 15y agoThat's what the downvote is for
- swombat 15y agoActually, in the case of such an egregiously stupid comment, that's what the flag button is for.
- paul9290 15y agoWhile I agree fabulous's comment is totally inappropriate Im caught off guard by some comments to my submissions and or commments left. For instance I recently unsubscribed to Groupon emails. After doing so Groupon pointed me to a page to watch a tongue and cheek video to get me to change my mind. I hate getting spam emails and I was very eager to banish any further Groupons (signed up by mistake). There tongue and cheek video was very ineffective for me. I did think it was unique, interesting and something worth sharing. But, since I felt negatively towards it the title of my submission was "Worst Email Unsubscibe Page?". Because that is how I felt about it but still wondered what others thought. For whatever reason because I chose a negative title the submission was flamed - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2928041 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2928041 Again that is how I felt time of writing the title because it was un-effective for me, but wondered what others thought about it. Ive been reading HN since May '07 (various accounts) so Im not a noob. Maybe Im someone who thinks differently at times then others here?
- Mz 15y agoI am someone who is actively resistant to "group-think". It often gets me in hot water to be so out of step. It's tricky to be very out of step with a group and still participate in a meaningful, constructive fashion. I try extremely hard to avoid framing things in a blatantly negative fashion. Negative framing of that sort seems to only work if the majority are pretty much guaranteed to heartily agree.
- swombat 15y agoIirc, the first title was "Worst Email Unsubscribe Page" without question mark. Also, the post was basically an editorial comment. I think it would have been flamed less if you had taken the time to write a short blog post about it and then submitted that.
- BasDirks 15y agoNot really. Downvote is for poor responses, which are still more or less acceptable. We don't want to spend our time on HN downvoting trolling clowns and other vermin.
- DeusExMachina 15y agoI understand the general idiots point, but why non-hackers? I remember that a lot of time I read very valuable comments from doctors, or lawyers, or mathematicians. Some of the articles that go to the front page are not related to hacking and this has always been fine.
- BasDirks 15y agohm, non-hackers was bad wording on my part. I guess my view of hackers is very broad, describing a mindset, not particular skillsets.
- revorad 15y agoAre you suggesting Android is not controlled by a huge corporation? Android is a lot more open than iOS, but the interaction with customers is completely controlled by a handful of corporations. We need an open source hardware device running a truly open source OS. That would be really nice. EDIT: Even if we don't have open source hardware, what would be great is having the ability to buy modular parts to build up our own devices. This used to be common practice with desktops, but got totally killed since laptops took over. If I had an extra life, that would be my startup.
- MatthewPhillips 15y agoI'm worried that we'll never be able to build our own phones the way we can build our own PCs with commodity hardware due to the crazy patent situation. Probably hardware and software will continue to be locked down (or in Android's case, released to open-source many many months after official release), but we'll be rescued by the web the same way we were in the PC era.
- runn1ng 15y agoOn the other hand, iPhone OS (or how was it called in early days) was a clear inspiration for Android. You cannot deny Apple basically invented many phone UI metaphors, that were directly copied (and I don't mean it in negative sense) into Android UI. And to your other point... closed nature has its upsides too. Look at gaming consoles, they work quite well despite being crazy controlled. And Apple never wanted to dominate the whole phone market... if you remember the iPhone introduction, they didn't want to own the whole market. They defined its own category, basically :)
- MatthewPhillips 15y agoI would argue that the best gaming console of all time is the PC.
- mambodog 15y agoI would argue that the PC is a terrible gaming console, as crappy drivers and graphics APIs (and the wide variety of hardware) rob PC games of huge amounts of the total performance the hardware is capable of.
- ori_b 15y agoI'm not sure about that. The iPhone UI is definitely a good piece of engineering, and it's certainly more polished than what came before, but I don't think it invented anything novel.
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- marciovm123 15y agoThere will be many of these, and deservedly so.
- bsphil 15y agoHipsters and overpriced consumer electronics?
- shantanubala 15y agoOr people who like Apple products, and products that are priced at levels people are willing to pay.
- dmix 15y agoThe only way to win the "Apple is hipster/overpriced" game is to not play it. Just ignore it and carry on.
- rhygar 15y agoI'm starting to wonder where this meme comes from. I would hardly call owning a product produced by the most successful company in the world and a household brand being a "hipster". Apple products are not really overpriced. Try buying a capable iPad-like tablet for less than $499. Try buying something like the 11" Macbook Air for less than $999. The iPhone 3GS is $49 with a two year contract. Is there a rebel without a cause sensibility about hating Apple?
- mkr-hn 15y agoIt's no mystery. People react like this to the kind of marketing Apple uses and the culture it encourages.
- skermes 15y agoTo expand on mrk-hn's comment, I don't think the comparison is entirely without merit. From what I can tell, a lot of the scorn directed at hipsters (or at least the "hipster" archetype/strawperson) stems from fact (or perception) that they value cultural artifacts based on the social status that they can leverage those artifacts for, rather than for any intrinsic value they might have. Compare someone who tells their friends about a band because they like the lyrics of that one song they listened to all the time in high school, vs someone who tells their friends about the same band because they want to be the first to do so, gaining some reputation in the process. (Obviously there are more subtle gradients of behaviors and motivations here, but lets stick to broad strokes.) Apple's branding and advertising tends to exhibit a similar focus on how their products will improve your status, rather than on the capabilities of the actual hard/software. Consider the 1984 Mac ad, or the iPod silhouette ads. They weren't telling you to buy an iPod because it could hold more songs, they were telling you that if you had an iPod, you could be one of the happy beautiful people dancing on a soundstage. Compare that to a run of GeneriCo (seriously, I've seen it like ten times but I can't recall the brand) ads that have been running for back-to-school PCs on Hulu. The whole thing is a laundry list of features without any context for why they're going to make your life better. And there's a creepy guy hanging on the wall of a girl's dorm room. They haven't even grokked JWZ's level of marketing savvy (http://www.jwz.org/doc/groupware.html http://www.jwz.org/doc/groupware.html) let alone Apple's. Collide that with some long-standing geek ethics (function over form, a hard-won appreciation for the inner beauty of seemingly ugly tech, etc) and a backlash isn't all that surprising. The hipster thing is just convenient. Hating on them is already a popular internet pastime, so throwing that (as above, somewhat spiritually appropriate) label on Apple is a nice shorthand for showing how much you don't care about how big bezels should be or whether your corners are rounded. It doesn't help that there are a fairly substantial core group of Apple devotees who engage in some absurdly irrational behaviors for status-seeking reasons (which is pretty much what "hipsterism" is all about). Why, our enraged geek wants to know, would anyone stand in line at an Apple store for hours for a new iPhone? THAT IS WHAT THE INTERNET AND FEDEX IS FOR SMAAASH So, yeah. Extending that to accusations of overpriced-ness is left as an exercise for the reader.
- prbuckley 15y agoThank you for being an inspiration to so many.
- amateurguru 15y agoAlso: http://getwellsteve.com/ http://getwellsteve.com/
- wunderfool 15y agojesus please make this stop, this is becoming ridiculous you may be shocked to discover that other people worked at apple over the years
- vectorpush 15y agoSteve Jobs is a great man, but isn't this a little much?
- frossie 15y agoI am not sure I understand the objection. It costs nothing and it clearly makes people happy. Let them be. Saying thank you, like most happier emotional expressions, has a positive effect for the sender as well as the recipient.
- 9999 15y agoNo. It's not anywhere close to enough. Wozniak might have been the way for the beginning of the PC revolution, but Jobs had the will, and more importantly, he told us all why we wanted it. Why we needed it... There is literally no amount of praise that would be excessive. For what it's worth, I would say the same of Gates, Stallman, Torvalds, K&R, Sussman, etc. etc. etc. Contrary to popular belief, enthusiasm, love, and praise are free.
- Off 15y agoi'm tired of all that apple shit in my rss feed.
- mattyohe 15y agoThanks to the authors of this site for using my photo :D
- HaloZero 15y agoAm I the only one who seems that this makes it seem like he's dead and just not stepping down from CEO of Apple? It's not like he's not going to do anything else in his life.
- runn1ng 15y agoFrom the (tabloidy) TMZ photos, he doesn't look quite well.
- kristofferR 15y agoThe way he phrased his resignation letter made it sound like his health is rapidly declining and is no longer good enough to serve as the CEO. That, and the November release of his official biography, are both hints that he fears his life is ending soon. "I have always said if there ever came a day when I could no longer meet my duties and expectations as Apple’s CEO, I would be the first to let you know. Unfortunately, that day has come."
- lawnchair_larry 15y agoI think it might be. I don't think he would have resigned if he had anything left in him.
- prbuckley 15y agoWhy do you think saying thank you has to wait until someone is dead? The best time to say thank you is when the person is here and can appreciate the gratitude being expressed for them.
- ryan-allen 15y agoWhat if I didn't want to tweet the thank you? What apout quests? Thanks for lovely computers and phones, especially the MacBook Air. It's my most favourite computer ever! Hopefully the bar is raised sufficient enough that we wont go backwards in design and function. I once tried to buy a PC laptop just for something different (I've had Macs since 10.2), but nothing at all could come close to the MacBooks. A nice screen, keyboard, trackpad and design all in one package is apparently too difficult for every other laptop manufacturer out there. Except for maybe Lenovo, they are a bit of alright. But there just isn't anything like the Air!
- fschwehn 15y agoi really like most apple products, but that sounds much to me like a thanksgiving prayer! is apple just a brand or even a religion?
- kemayo 15y agoI am disappointed by how many of the comments flashing by in the twitter stream on that site are people insulting Steve Jobs and Apple users in general. Not exactly surprised, but disappointed nonetheless.
- code_duck 15y agoThere's a lot of hate and prejudice cultivated in some circles vs. Apple and people who use their products. It's certainly worthy of a cultural study or analysis. I suppose this is mainly the 'us vs. the other' mentality... Linux users get that ridiculous BS, too.
- raphaelb 15y agoVery nice site. Right after he resigned I actually stopped and thought about how he had changed my life directly or indirectly. Truly amazing. We created a FB event "Dress Up Like Steve Jobs Day": https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=130179840411684 https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=130179840411684 to honor Steve Jobs on Friday, September 9th.
- russjhammond 15y agoInteractive map showing the locations of those using #ThankYouSteveJobsFor http://www.myheatmap.com/maps/iN5Nuwh2H3g= http://www.myheatmap.com/maps/iN5Nuwh2H3g=
- ronaldj 15y agoHe's not dead yet.
- hiss 15y agoSteve, thanks for personal technology so good it's ruining my life: http://www.addictionandsubtraction.com/30-day-smartphone-fast/ http://www.addictionandsubtraction.com/30-day-smartphone-fas... And yes, I'm being somewhat facetious.