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You need to read the full text I'm afraid: "Even though vaccinations offers protection to individuals against severe hospitalization and death, the CDC reporte

by lbj 5y ago

You need to read the full text I'm afraid: "Even though vaccinations offers protection to individuals against severe hospitalization and death, the CDC reported an increase from 0.01 to 9% and 0 to 15.1% (between January to May 2021) in the rates of hospitalizations and deaths, respectively, amongst the fully vaccinated"

detaro 5y ago
... that's not what your original comment was claiming the link is a source for.
- lbj 5y ago
  Correct. But also, its not something you can draw that many conclusions from. For instance, I would need to see which variants were responsible for those admissions, as the vaccine might have better results on some than others. But nevertheless its important to collect as much data as possible.
KoftaBob 5y ago
The sentence immediately before it provides important context as to what it's referring to: > A substantial decline in immunity from mRNA vaccines 6-months post immunization has also been reported [9]. >Even though vaccinations offers protection to individuals against severe hospitalization and death, the CDC reported an increase from 0.01 to 9% and 0 to 15.1% (between January to May 2021) in the rates of hospitalizations and deaths, respectively, amongst the fully vaccinated [10]. It's referring to an increase in hospitalization/death 6 months after vaccination, compared to when you're first vaccinated. That's very very different from your statement that "countries with higher mRNA COVID vaccine coverage have (slightly) higher covid-mortality than countries with low/lower vaccine coverage".
- lbj 5y ago
  That's true, I should have been more clear. As I stated in another comment, its hard to draw big conclusions from this data alone. The authors conclude that everyone should get vaccinated despite quickly diminishing returns. Looking a total morbidity in Denmark, I'm just not convinced.

by lbj 5y ago

detaro 5y ago

... that's not what your original comment was claiming the link is a source for.

lbj 5y ago
Correct. But also, its not something you can draw that many conclusions from. For instance, I would need to see which variants were responsible for those admissions, as the vaccine might have better results on some than others. But nevertheless its important to collect as much data as possible.

KoftaBob 5y ago

The sentence immediately before it provides important context as to what it's referring to: > A substantial decline in immunity from mRNA vaccines 6-months post immunization has also been reported [9]. >Even though vaccinations offers protection to individuals against severe hospitalization and death, the CDC reported an increase from 0.01 to 9% and 0 to 15.1% (between January to May 2021) in the rates of hospitalizations and deaths, respectively, amongst the fully vaccinated [10]. It's referring to an increase in hospitalization/death 6 months after vaccination, compared to when you're first vaccinated. That's very very different from your statement that "countries with higher mRNA COVID vaccine coverage have (slightly) higher covid-mortality than countries with low/lower vaccine coverage".

lbj 5y ago
That's true, I should have been more clear. As I stated in another comment, its hard to draw big conclusions from this data alone. The authors conclude that everyone should get vaccinated despite quickly diminishing returns. Looking a total morbidity in Denmark, I'm just not convinced.