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Notably, and with a disclaimer that I myself unfortunately failed to live by ideals in this case and did buy, Onyx seem to have their own issue, which is violat

by akavel 5y ago

Notably, and with a disclaimer that I myself unfortunately failed to live by ideals in this case and did buy, Onyx seem to have their own issue, which is violating GPL: https://old.reddit.com/r/Onyx_Boox/comments/p9ztru/lets_help_onyx_become_a_better_company/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Onyx_Boox/comments/p9ztru/lets_help...

tluyben2 5y ago
Yeah, it is annoying that there is so little competition. I was made aware of this after being a very happy Boox (A4 size; I use it literally for everything I used paper for before when reading, writing, sketching, flow charts, mockups etc) user for 6 months. I am not going to toss it away and so far, after trying the reMarkable from a friend, I would buy the Boox again instead... ...if not this gpl issue. Edit: also, I believe one of the people in that reddit thread might have the correct answer; the eInk drivers (and probably more notably the waveform) will be proprietary and they do probably worry about losing their license if they publish anything they are not allowed to. Which would end their business immediately.
- secondaryacct 5y ago
  The GPL issue doesnt matter for your buying decision. In fact, becoming a client expand your voice: you can now say you're even paying support already to listen to you whine about why they didnt publish the 5 patches they made to some broadcom drivers.
  - skinnymuch 5y ago
    In good faith, I’ll assume this entire thing isn’t sarcastic. Buying stuff from entities violating whatever will only solidify what they are doing. Support isn’t spending time any way with gpl stuff. They aren’t going to read a paying customers complaints any more than any one else.
    - zepto 5y ago
      If anything, a paying customers voice counts for less on this issue.
JeremyNT 5y ago
I have another similar device, the Boyue Likebook Mars, and it's so close to being great. In addition to the license compliance issues, I assume these cheap Chinese devices are siphoning off all my data to parts unknown. The last I checked, you couldn't even root the thing. I trust reMarkable more, so I might eventually buy one to replace the Mars. But a device like the Onyx/Boyue e-ink tablets that was more open (ideally: running LineageOS) would be close to ideal. Edit: I forgot about the PineNote, which is probably the best option on the horizon for those who don't trust these Chinese Android distros: https://www.pine64.org/pinenote/ https://www.pine64.org/pinenote/ - I should probably go pre-order one :)
- necovek 5y ago
  You need to show that you are serious about developing for eInk note-taking devices to get in the first developer-only PineNote batch: at least serious enough to fill in a form describing your note-taking development credentials :). Or maybe they'd really let anyone have it who writes convincing enough prose about what they plan to develop on it. :) I'd love to develop apps for PineNote (or reMarkable even), but I am being realistic when I say that I won't get around to it.

by akavel 5y ago

tluyben2 5y ago

Yeah, it is annoying that there is so little competition. I was made aware of this after being a very happy Boox (A4 size; I use it literally for everything I used paper for before when reading, writing, sketching, flow charts, mockups etc) user for 6 months. I am not going to toss it away and so far, after trying the reMarkable from a friend, I would buy the Boox again instead... ...if not this gpl issue. Edit: also, I believe one of the people in that reddit thread might have the correct answer; the eInk drivers (and probably more notably the waveform) will be proprietary and they do probably worry about losing their license if they publish anything they are not allowed to. Which would end their business immediately.

secondaryacct 5y ago
The GPL issue doesnt matter for your buying decision. In fact, becoming a client expand your voice: you can now say you're even paying support already to listen to you whine about why they didnt publish the 5 patches they made to some broadcom drivers.
- skinnymuch 5y ago
  In good faith, I’ll assume this entire thing isn’t sarcastic. Buying stuff from entities violating whatever will only solidify what they are doing. Support isn’t spending time any way with gpl stuff. They aren’t going to read a paying customers complaints any more than any one else.
  - zepto 5y ago
    If anything, a paying customers voice counts for less on this issue.

JeremyNT 5y ago

I have another similar device, the Boyue Likebook Mars, and it's so close to being great. In addition to the license compliance issues, I assume these cheap Chinese devices are siphoning off all my data to parts unknown. The last I checked, you couldn't even root the thing. I trust reMarkable more, so I might eventually buy one to replace the Mars. But a device like the Onyx/Boyue e-ink tablets that was more open (ideally: running LineageOS) would be close to ideal. Edit: I forgot about the PineNote, which is probably the best option on the horizon for those who don't trust these Chinese Android distros: https://www.pine64.org/pinenote/ https://www.pine64.org/pinenote/ - I should probably go pre-order one :)

necovek 5y ago
You need to show that you are serious about developing for eInk note-taking devices to get in the first developer-only PineNote batch: at least serious enough to fill in a form describing your note-taking development credentials :). Or maybe they'd really let anyone have it who writes convincing enough prose about what they plan to develop on it. :) I'd love to develop apps for PineNote (or reMarkable even), but I am being realistic when I say that I won't get around to it.